The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[NickHassan]

Hi L,
Folk try to make God smaller.
But God in heaven is yet close to all men in creation..as Spirit.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ April 29 2010,16:54)

Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,15:30) Hi Everybody, All these verses Prove CONCLUSIVELY “The Word” is REALLY The “HolySpirit”! Psalm 33:6 Zech.4:6 Zech.12:1 Matt.13:19 Mark 4:14 Mark13:11 Mark 13:19 Luke 3:2 Luke 8:11 John 12:49 John 14:24 John 17:6-8 John 17:14 Acts 4:31 Acts 10:36-38 Acts 10:44 Acts 11:15-16 Acts 13:4-5 Acts 13:47-49 Acts 17:11 Acts 20:32 Romans 9:5-6 Romans 10:17 1Cor. 12:8-9 1Cor. 14:36 2Cor. 5:19 2Cor. 6:6-7 Gal.6:6 Eph. 1:12-13 Eph. 5:26 Eph. 6:17 Phillip.2:16 1Tm.5:17-18 2Tm.2:11-15 2Tm.4:2 Hebrews 1:1-2 Hebrews 2:2-3 Hebrews 4:2-6 Hebrews 4:8-12 Hebrews 5:13-14 Hebrews 7:28 Hebrews 11:3 Hebrews 12:19 James 1:18 1Peter 1:21-23 1Peter 2:6-8 1John 2:7-10 Rev.1:2 Rev.1:9 Rev.19:11-16 Rev.20:4 God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj your scriptures do not reflect your convictions of Jesus  the WORD being the HOLY SPIRIT, could you show the scriptures in their totality so we can see your product in reality in stead of a abstract of quotes, i am sure you can make it short as needed, because i check your quotes and i do not buy it.

Hi Laurel,

I did; it's already as short as needed !
If it is 'your' goal to prove my assertions incorrect,
'you' will have do ALL the work (you will get NO help from me whatsoever)!
Read your own words on your last Post from bottom Here (forth Paragraph from bottom)
Ask Georg how much help I offered him with this type of endeavor you are choosing to peruse?

I will “only” work to bring “Bible Truth” to those who claim 'ignorance' thereof. OR…
Those choosing to help establish “Bible Truth”, then I will lend much support including working hard towards this goal!

Sincerely,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

edj

you say;I will “only” work to bring “Bible Truth” to those who claim 'ignorance' thereof. OR…
Those choosing to help establish “Bible Truth”, then I will lend much support including working hard towards this goal!

Sincerely,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

don't make me laugh with this type of interpretation you call that truth ?? truth of your not bible truth,

if you are so sure why is it you can not pick the most supported scriptures to defend your view,but you can not because there are none.

you quoting scriptures hopping that people will not go and look but i did ,and you are wrong your interpretation does not stand.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ April 30 2010,15:47)

edj you say;I will “only” work to bring “Bible Truth” to those who claim 'ignorance' thereof. OR… Those choosing to help establish “Bible Truth”, then I will lend much support including working hard towards this goal! Sincerely, Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org don't make me laugh with this type of interpretation you call that truth ?? truth of your not bible truth, if you are so sure why is it you can not pick the most supported scriptures to defend your view, but you can not because there are none. you quoting scriptures hopping that people will not go and look but i did ,and you are wrong your interpretation does not stand.

Hi Terraricca,

There is a whole thread dedicated to explaining it to you. (Click here)
If “After” reading “this thread”(Ha Ha), you have any questions,
I will then endeavor to answer them for you; OK, Terraricca?

It seems the four random Picks you made were pretty conclusive…

Quote (terraricca @ April 29 2010,16:40)

edj Mt 13:19 People hear the message about the kingdom but do not understand it. Then the evil one comes. He steals what was planted in their hearts. Those people are like the seed planted on a path. Jn 12:49 “I did not speak on my own. The Father who sent me commanded me what to say. He also told me how to say it. Heb 7:28 The law appoints men who are weak to be high priests. But God’s oath came after the law. The oath appointed the Son. He has been made perfect forever. Rev 20:4 I saw thrones. Those who had been given authority to judge were sitting on them. I also saw the souls of those whose heads had been cut off because they had given witness for Jesus and because of God’s word. They had not worshiped the beast or his statue. They had not received his mark on their foreheads or hands. They came to life and ruled with Christ for 1,000 years. here i took 4 scriptures to see if you have any credit…

The AKJV is the most accurate Bible us English-Speaking people possess.
Remember these are your picks out of the 58 choices!

Matt.13:19 When any one heareth “The Word” of the kingdom,
and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away
that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me,
he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. (The Word(s))

Heb.7:28 Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but
“The Word” of the oath, which was since the law, (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)
“maketh The Son”, who is consecrated for evermore.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, AND FOR THE WORD of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,
or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Notice how it mentions both (ONE) Jesus AND (TWO) “The Word”; can you NOT see this?
“The Word” in each of these cases is [ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs, THE WORD as JOHN 1:1 is!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,15:38)

Ask Georg how much help I offered him with this type of endeavor you are choosing to peruse? I will “only” work to bring “Bible Truth” to those who claim 'ignorance' thereof. OR… Those choosing to help establish “Bible Truth”, then I will lend much support including working hard towards this goal! Sincerely, Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

YOU, have offered me help, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING.
What medication are you on, or is it smoke getting in your eye?

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 30 2010,17:38)

Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2010,15:38) If it is 'your' goal to prove my assertions incorrect, 'you' will have do ALL the work (you will get NO help from me whatsoever)! Ask Georg how much help I offered him with this type of endeavor you are choosing to peruse? Sincerely, Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org YOU, have offered me help, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING. What medication are you on, or is it smoke getting in your eye? Georg

Hi Georg,

That is the point.
How well you know!
I offer NO help whatsoever to…
people who's goal is to use information against me!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
You seem only interested in teaching and correcting us all and get very touchy when you are not agreed with?
Why is this?

Have you finished learning??

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,19:09)

Hi ED, You seem only interested in teaching and correcting us all and get very touchy when you are not agreed with? Why is this? Have you finished learning??

Hi Nick,

Not really, both you and Gene 'originally' flat out rejected many things.
Did you ever consider this concept you now present about me before?
I don't peruse things when people are not interested in hearing them,
I do have the right to defend my views when attacked! (Isaiah 54:17)

Perhaps you mistake my strong defensive posture as an attack?
I suggest you look a little closer into this pattern concerning me,
you will find my words bear out to be true with no hostility at all.

Gary Robb: “Nobody can know everything about everything”.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
You are attacked or your sometimes shallow concepts are?
Have you learned anything here?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,22:11)

Hi ED, Have you learned anything here?

Hi Nick,

Yea; have you learned anything since I have been here?

Ed J

[Laurel]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,07:13)

Quote (Laurel @ April 30 2010,02:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2010,15:37) Hi ED, Yes the Word is a manifestation of God's Spirit. But the Spirit is more than Word and God is more than His Spirit. Nick i will agree that YHWH is more than words written on a sheep skin, but YHWH reveals Himself to us in this way. It is how He decided to manifest Himself to us. And aren't you the one who always teaches that we need to rely on the written Word? I was wondering however, how do you say that YHWH is more than His own Spirit, since His Spirit can not be measured, and especially because He is Spirit. How can you put a limit on something that has no limit? Where is the Scripture for this statement? How is it possible for YWHW to more than YHWH? That just does not make any sense to me. I have never seen anything written to this effect, nor have i ever heard any person on the planet use these kinds of words before! Hi L, God is in heaven. He sends His Spirit,

Nick are you practicing to be a wolf in sheeps clothing?

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Yes you have added good insights.
But you have never resolved issues others have rightly raised.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 01 2010,06:54)

Hi ED, Yes you have added good insights. But you have never resolved issues others have rightly raised.

Hi Nick,

Thank you, I appreciate your presents here as well.
I will endeavor to help (us all) resolve these issues.

Your brother in Christ!
Ed J

[Ed J]

To All,

God can be all in all as his word enters into our believing hearts. (1Cor.12:6)
Eph.4:6  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1Jn:1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
The letters of the apostles were written to those who had been saved and not the world.[Context]
The seed of the word does not always find good soil and often fails to take root.
God is only in those who have been reborn of His Spirit and walk.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2010,06:28)

Hi ED, The letters of the apostles were written to those who had been saved and not the world.[Context] The seed of the word does not always find good soil and often fails to take root. God is only in those who have been reborn of His Spirit and walk.

nick

you right about wen and to whom the letter were written to,

but being reborn does not means by water but by the spirit of Gods word (the scriptures) the truth is the word of God,and applying the word means your acceptance of it and make them your own in your heart ,this is the baptism of the spirit of Christ ,because the word is the spirit of Christ,but you have to believe in it.and walk by it.

Pierre

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
There are some that Jesus specified were washed by the Word.[Jn15]
But it is wiser to follow the words of Jn3 and the actions of Acts and seek rebirth of water AND the Spirit

[karmarie]

Hi Ed, that was me who had that post down in bods thread so here it is again..

In hermas Theres God the Father, theres the Son who is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus the Son of God, makes sense to me, I believe what Hermas says. It was also believed by other early writtings. Adoptionism I think its called?

[karmarie]

Or a type of Adoptionism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoptionism

[terraricca]

nick

Mt 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

why is not forgiven??

Pierre

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