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Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,15:03) Ed you can quit with the babel, i am not impressed!
Matt.7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
.Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,09:23) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,08:41) There is no such thing as the trinity. That is men's way who are not of the Spirit to try to identify themself as GOD, YHWH Elohim. When ever a person believes in something they can not proove, it is because it is false. But these self proclaimed righteous men will have you believe that you can be like Elohim knowing good and evil, and it has been the message of HaSatan from the beginning! Let's see. Je_us is a man/god and we are supposed to be like him, so now we can all be man/gods and worship any way we want to. We can forsake the Holy TORAH of Mosheh, and we can worship on any day we choose now that we are mighty ones, we have the aughority to change the written word, and let's just tell people that we have been inspired by the spirit to do these things….
Guess what people, the TRUTH is that NO MAN even the Messiah has the authority to chang one yood or one iota of the Set apart TORAH. All things can be proven through TORAH, and when man seeks to do away with it, He seeks to destroy not only the Messiah Who is the Word, but also YHWH Elohim, the Author of the Word.
How does truth taste so far?
Hi Laurel,Welcome to the forum!
If your learning Hebrew then you should realize Hebrew has no “W” sound in their Alphabet.
Haven't you learned this FACT yet?Witnessing to the world in behalf of (YHVH)… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Let's get back to what began this stupid discussion Ed. I posted a very important fact and all you could do was tell me there is no W sound.Well Ed you are not my teacher, and i have been studying the old Hebrew for a few years.
YHWH is Elohim or shall i say Elochim to please you?
There are way too many important matters to discuss besides the “pronounciation” of the Name of YHWH.You pronounce it how you want, but i know that YHWH is a spirit and His Name shall reflect Him. I do not pronounce His Set-apart Name with any “hard” sounds, but like a breath in esteeming the Spirit that He is. So therefor i do not say V or anything like V and actually while reading and speaking Hebrew, rarely do i ever say the V sound for the letter UAU/WAW/VAV
That is more modern Hebrew.
Also i noticed you spell YAHUSHUA differently than i do.
Joh 17:3 “And this is everlasting life, that they should know You, the only true Elohim, and יהושע Messiah whom You have sent.
And if you want to get really picky about pronunciations you can write a letter to the publisher of the Scriptures 1998 edition where i quoted this from.
Now may we move ahead to real issues?
Quote (Laurel @ April 26 2010,00:51) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,09:23) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,08:41) There is no such thing as the trinity. That is men's way who are not of the Spirit to try to identify themself as GOD, YHWH Elohim. When ever a person believes in something they can not proove, it is because it is false. But these self proclaimed righteous men will have you believe that you can be like Elohim knowing good and evil, and it has been the message of HaSatan from the beginning! Let's see. Je_us is a man/god and we are supposed to be like him, so now we can all be man/gods and worship any way we want to. We can forsake the Holy TORAH of Mosheh, and we can worship on any day we choose now that we are mighty ones, we have the aughority to change the written word, and let's just tell people that we have been inspired by the spirit to do these things….
Guess what people, the TRUTH is that NO MAN even the Messiah has the authority to chang one yood or one iota of the Set apart TORAH. All things can be proven through TORAH, and when man seeks to do away with it, He seeks to destroy not only the Messiah Who is the Word, but also YHWH Elohim, the Author of the Word.
How does truth taste so far?
Hi Laurel,Welcome to the forum!
If your learning Hebrew then you should realize Hebrew has no “W” sound in their Alphabet.
Haven't you learned this FACT yet?Witnessing to the world in behalf of (YHVH)… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Let's get back to what began this stupid discussion Ed. I posted a very important fact and all you could do was tell me there is no W sound.Well Ed you are not my teacher, and i have been studying the old Hebrew for a few years.
YHWH is Elohim or shall i say Elochim to please you?
There are way too many important matters to discuss besides the “pronounciation” of the Name of YHWH.You pronounce it how you want, but i know that YHWH is a spirit and His Name shall reflect Him. I do not pronounce His Set-apart Name with any “hard” sounds, but like a breath in esteeming the Spirit that He is. So therefor i do not say V or anything like V and actually while reading and speaking Hebrew, rarely do i ever say the V sound for the letter UAU/WAW/VAV
That is more modern Hebrew.
Also i noticed you spell YAHUSHUA differently than i do.
Joh 17:3 “And this is everlasting life, that they should know You, the only true Elohim, and יהושע Messiah whom You have sent.
And if you want to get really picky about pronunciations you can write a letter to the publisher of the Scriptures 1998 edition where i quoted this from.
Now may we move ahead to real issues?
Hi Laurel,Hebrew has NO “W” SOUND!
What's more important than people learning about their God?
Psalm 45:17 I will make thy name (YHVH) to be remembered in all generations:
therefore shall the people praise thee (117=יהוה האלהים) for ever and ever.GOD The Father=117 is at the center of all truth in this large universe even unto the smallest of particles.
The Largest book is the Psalms, the smallest chapter and Bible’s Center is [Psalm 117]. GOD the Father
is at the center of everything and maintains fractal consistency from the seemingly insignificant to the
enormity of all things. From small to large, GOD is both the central focus of both the Bible and of all
reality; that GOD (117=יהוה האלהים) may be perceived as all in all, because “YHVH is GOD”=117.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,21:07) Quote (Laurel @ April 26 2010,00:51) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,09:23) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,08:41) There is no such thing as the trinity. That is men's way who are not of the Spirit to try to identify themself as GOD, YHWH Elohim. When ever a person believes in something they can not proove, it is because it is false. But these self proclaimed righteous men will have you believe that you can be like Elohim knowing good and evil, and it has been the message of HaSatan from the beginning! Let's see. Je_us is a man/god and we are supposed to be like him, so now we can all be man/gods and worship any way we want to. We can forsake the Holy TORAH of Mosheh, and we can worship on any day we choose now that we are mighty ones, we have the aughority to change the written word, and let's just tell people that we have been inspired by the spirit to do these things….
Guess what people, the TRUTH is that NO MAN even the Messiah has the authority to chang one yood or one iota of the Set apart TORAH. All things can be proven through TORAH, and when man seeks to do away with it, He seeks to destroy not only the Messiah Who is the Word, but also YHWH Elohim, the Author of the Word.
How does truth taste so far?
Hi Laurel,Welcome to the forum!
If your learning Hebrew then you should realize Hebrew has no “W” sound in their Alphabet.
Haven't you learned this FACT yet?Witnessing to the world in behalf of (YHVH)… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Let's get back to what began this stupid discussion Ed. I posted a very important fact and all you could do was tell me there is no W sound.Well Ed you are not my teacher, and i have been studying the old Hebrew for a few years.
YHWH is Elohim or shall i say Elochim to please you?
There are way too many important matters to discuss besides the “pronounciation” of the Name of YHWH.You pronounce it how you want, but i know that YHWH is a spirit and His Name shall reflect Him. I do not pronounce His Set-apart Name with any “hard” sounds, but like a breath in esteeming the Spirit that He is. So therefor i do not say V or anything like V and actually while reading and speaking Hebrew, rarely do i ever say the V sound for the letter UAU/WAW/VAV
That is more modern Hebrew.
Also i noticed you spell YAHUSHUA differently than i do.
Joh 17:3 “And this is everlasting life, that they should know You, the only true Elohim, and יהושע Messiah whom You have sent.
And if you want to get really picky about pronunciations you can write a letter to the publisher of the Scriptures 1998 edition where i quoted this from.
Now may we move ahead to real issues?
Hi Laurel,Hebrew has NO “W” SOUND!
What's more important than people learning about their God?
Psalm 45:17 I will make thy name (YHVH) to be remembered in all generations:
therefore shall the people praise thee (117=יהוה האלהים) for ever and ever.GOD The Father=117 is at the center of all truth in this large universe even unto the smallest of particles.
The Largest book is the Psalms, the smallest chapter and Bible’s Center is [Psalm 117]. GOD the Father
is at the center of everything and maintains fractal consistency from the seemingly insignificant to the
enormity of all things. From small to large, GOD is both the central focus of both the Bible and of all
reality; that GOD (117=יהוה האלהים) may be perceived as all in all, because “YHVH is GOD”=117.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,
When i say the words school, tool, fool, cool i say the w sound.
When i say YAHUSHUA i say the w sound.
When i say YHWH i say the w sound.VV see the two v's make a w
OO it sounds like OO as in school
UU the two u's make a wW
Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,16:50) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,15:03) Ed you can quit with the babel, i am not impressed!
Matt.7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
.
Hi ED,
When someone challenges your ideas you seem to take it personally?
You are not rejected but your woolly ideas are at times.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,07:31) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,16:50) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,15:03) Ed you can quit with the babel, i am not impressed!
Matt.7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
.
Hi ED,
When someone challenges your ideas you seem to take it personally?
You are not rejected but your woolly ideas are at times.
When someone rejects what i am sharing, then they reject YHWH, because i stand for Him. I really did make YAHUSHUA my Master and i believe His Words, and not the words of men. So yes, i am very offended whenever a person teaches contrary to what the Messiah lived and died for which is our ABBA and one another, and He did it in uprightness of heart.Hi L,
So you say.
But you are not yet alike to the anointed vessels who spoke in God's name.Your legalism still speaks of confusion and insecurity.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,07:31) Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2010,16:50) Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,15:03) Ed you can quit with the babel, i am not impressed!
Matt.7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
.
Hi ED,
When someone challenges your ideas you seem to take it personally?
Hi Nick,Looks like you have this comment directed at the 'wrong person'?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Laurel @ April 27 2010,02:22) Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2010,21:07)
Hi Laurel,Hebrew has NO “W” SOUND!
What's more important than people learning about their God?
Psalm 45:17 I will make thy name (YHVH) to be remembered in all generations:
therefore shall the people praise thee (117=יהוה האלהים) for ever and ever.GOD The Father=117 is at the center of all truth in this large universe even unto the smallest of particles.
The Largest book is the Psalms, the smallest chapter and Bible’s Center is [Psalm 117]. GOD the Father
is at the center of everything and maintains fractal consistency from the seemingly insignificant to the
enormity of all things. From small to large, GOD is both the central focus of both the Bible and of all
reality; that GOD (117=יהוה האלהים) may be perceived as all in all, because “YHVH is GOD”=117.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,
When i say the words school, tool, fool, cool i say the w sound.
When i say YAHUSHUA i say the w sound.
When i say YHWH i say the w sound.VV see the two v's make a w
OO it sounds like OO as in school
UU the two u's make a wW
Hi Laurel,Does that mean you would also pronounce…
Two as one… TüWas one?
In lieu of… In LüWăfQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,06:41) Hi L,
So you say.
But you are not yet alike to the anointed vessels who spoke in God's name.Your legalism still speaks of confusion and insecurity.
Well Nick i am alike Yahushua Messiah enough to be happy to say that i and my Father, and Yahushua Messiah are one. As a vessel being continually moulded in the hands of the Potter, yes i am an unfinished vessel, but i can still hold water and enought to overflowing.You know if i though for one second that my righteousness was of myself, i would agree with being labeled a legalist, but inknow that all the good in me comes from above, because i know i am loved, and my love is returned to whom is comes.
Therfore legalistic is not even close to who i am.
Hi Everybody,
All these verses Prove CONCLUSIVELY “The Word” is REALLY The “HolySpirit”!
Psalm 33:6
Zech.4:6
Zech.12:1Matt.13:19
Mark 4:14
Mark13:11
Mark 13:19
Luke 3:2
Luke 8:11
John 12:49
John 14:24
John 17:6-8
John 17:14
Acts 4:31
Acts 10:36-38
Acts 10:44
Acts 11:15-16
Acts 13:4-5
Acts 13:47-49
Acts 17:11
Acts 20:32
Romans 9:5-6
Romans 10:17
1Cor. 12:8-9
1Cor. 14:36
2Cor. 5:19
2Cor. 6:6-7
Gal.6:6
Eph. 1:12-13
Eph. 5:26
Eph. 6:17
Phillip.2:16
1Tm.5:17-18
2Tm.2:11-15
2Tm.4:2
Hebrews 1:1-2
Hebrews 2:2-3
Hebrews 4:2-6
Hebrews 4:8-12
Hebrews 5:13-14
Hebrews 7:28
Hebrews 11:3
Hebrews 12:19
James 1:18
1Peter 1:21-23
1Peter 2:6-8
1John 2:7-10
Rev.1:2
Rev.1:9
Rev.19:11-16
Rev.20:4God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Yes the Word is a manifestation of God's Spirit.
But the Spirit is more than Word and God is more than His Spirit.Quote (Ed J @ April 29 2010,15:30) Hi Everybody, All these verses Prove CONCLUSIVELY “The Word” is REALLY The “HolySpirit”!
Psalm 33:6
Zech.4:6
Zech.12:1Matt.13:19
Mark 4:14
Mark13:11
Mark 13:19
Luke 3:2
Luke 8:11
John 12:49
John 14:24
John 17:6-8
John 17:14
Acts 4:31
Acts 10:36-38
Acts 10:44
Acts 11:15-16
Acts 13:4-5
Acts 13:47-49
Acts 17:11
Acts 20:32
Romans 9:5-6
Romans 10:17
1Cor. 12:8-9
1Cor. 14:36
2Cor. 5:19
2Cor. 6:6-7
Gal.6:6
Eph. 1:12-13
Eph. 5:26
Eph. 6:17
Phillip.2:16
1Tm.5:17-18
2Tm.2:11-15
2Tm.4:2
Hebrews 1:1-2
Hebrews 2:2-3
Hebrews 4:2-6
Hebrews 4:8-12
Hebrews 5:13-14
Hebrews 7:28
Hebrews 11:3
Hebrews 12:19
James 1:18
1Peter 1:21-23
1Peter 2:6-8
1John 2:7-10
Rev.1:2
Rev.1:9
Rev.19:11-16
Rev.20:4God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyour scriptures do not reflect your convictions of Jesus the WORD being the HOLY SPIRIT,
could you show the scriptures in their totality so we can see your product in reality in stead of a abstract of quotes,
i am sure you can make it short as needed,
because i check your quotes and i do not buy it.
Quote (Laurel @ April 29 2010,02:01) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,06:41) Hi L,
So you say.
But you are not yet alike to the anointed vessels who spoke in God's name.Your legalism still speaks of confusion and insecurity.
Well Nick i am alike Yahushua Messiah enough to be happy to say that i and my Father, and Yahushua Messiah are one. As a vessel being continually moulded in the hands of the Potter, yes i am an unfinished vessel, but i can still hold water and enought to overflowing.You know if i though for one second that my righteousness was of myself, i would agree with being labeled a legalist, but inknow that all the good in me comes from above, because i know i am loved, and my love is returned to whom is comes.
Therfore legalistic is not even close to who i am.
Laurelsinse you claiming that you are like Christ or Yahushus Messiah,
can you do the miracles he did??
are so wise as he was?
and are you as well sinless as he was ??Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2010,15:37) Hi ED,
Yes the Word is a manifestation of God's Spirit.
But the Spirit is more than Word and God is more than His Spirit.
Nick i will agree that YHWH is more than words written on a sheep skin, but YHWH reveals Himself to us in this way. It is how He decided to manifest Himself to us. And aren't you the one who always teaches that we need to rely on the written Word?I was wondering however, how do you say that YHWH is more than His own Spirit, since His Spirit can not be measured, and especially because He is Spirit.
How can you put a limit on something that has no limit?
Where is the Scripture for this statement? How is it possible for YWHW to more than YHWH?
That just does not make any sense to me. I have never seen anything written to this effect, nor have i ever heard any person on the planet use these kinds of words before!
Quote (terraricca @ April 29 2010,16:59) Quote (Laurel @ April 29 2010,02:01) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,06:41) Hi L,
So you say.
But you are not yet alike to the anointed vessels who spoke in God's name.Your legalism still speaks of confusion and insecurity.
Well Nick i am alike Yahushua Messiah enough to be happy to say that i and my Father, and Yahushua Messiah are one. As a vessel being continually moulded in the hands of the Potter, yes i am an unfinished vessel, but i can still hold water and enought to overflowing.You know if i though for one second that my righteousness was of myself, i would agree with being labeled a legalist, but inknow that all the good in me comes from above, because i know i am loved, and my love is returned to whom is comes.
Therfore legalistic is not even close to who i am.
Laurelsinse you claiming that you are like Christ or Yahushus Messiah,
can you do the miracles he did??
are so wise as he was?
and are you as well sinless as he was ??
If so, what is that to you?
Aren't you also required to follow the Messiah as a believer no more and no less than i am?You should worry about you own salvation, not what ever gifts YHWH has bestowed upon me.
Quote (Laurel @ April 30 2010,02:52) Quote (terraricca @ April 29 2010,16:59) Quote (Laurel @ April 29 2010,02:01) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2010,06:41) Hi L,
So you say.
But you are not yet alike to the anointed vessels who spoke in God's name.Your legalism still speaks of confusion and insecurity.
Well Nick i am alike Yahushua Messiah enough to be happy to say that i and my Father, and Yahushua Messiah are one. As a vessel being continually moulded in the hands of the Potter, yes i am an unfinished vessel, but i can still hold water and enought to overflowing.You know if i though for one second that my righteousness was of myself, i would agree with being labeled a legalist, but inknow that all the good in me comes from above, because i know i am loved, and my love is returned to whom is comes.
Therfore legalistic is not even close to who i am.
Laurelsinse you claiming that you are like Christ or Yahushus Messiah,
can you do the miracles he did??
are so wise as he was?
and are you as well sinless as he was ??
If so, what is that to you?
Aren't you also required to follow the Messiah as a believer no more and no less than i am?You should worry about you own salvation, not what ever gifts YHWH has bestowed upon me.
laurelat the least this is clear up, that's the main thing,
thanks for your admit things.
Quote (Laurel @ April 30 2010,02:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2010,15:37) Hi ED,
Yes the Word is a manifestation of God's Spirit.
But the Spirit is more than Word and God is more than His Spirit.
Nick i will agree that YHWH is more than words written on a sheep skin, but YHWH reveals Himself to us in this way. It is how He decided to manifest Himself to us. And aren't you the one who always teaches that we need to rely on the written Word?I was wondering however, how do you say that YHWH is more than His own Spirit, since His Spirit can not be measured, and especially because He is Spirit.
How can you put a limit on something that has no limit?
Where is the Scripture for this statement? How is it possible for YWHW to more than YHWH?
That just does not make any sense to me. I have never seen anything written to this effect, nor have i ever heard any person on the planet use these kinds of words before!
Hi L,
God is in heaven.
He sends His Spirit,Quote (Laurel @ April 30 2010,02:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2010,15:37) Hi ED,
Yes the Word is a manifestation of God's Spirit.
But the Spirit is more than Word and God is more than His Spirit.
Nick i will agree that YHWH is more than words written on a sheep skin, but YHWH reveals Himself to us in this way. It is how He decided to manifest Himself to us. And aren't you the one who always teaches that we need to rely on the written Word?I was wondering however, how do you say that YHWH is more than His own Spirit, since His Spirit can not be measured, and especially because He is Spirit.
How can you put a limit on something that has no limit?
Where is the Scripture for this statement? How is it possible for YWHW to more than YHWH?
That just does not make any sense to me. I have never seen anything written to this effect, nor have i ever heard any person on the planet use these kinds of words before!
Hi Laurel, (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13)Nick may be referring to verses such as this one…
Matt.10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing?
and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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