DT, you said…..>Let’s not forget his forked tongue in I Cor 15:3-4 where he says “according to scripture.” Of course all of christendom says Isa 53 is your answer; what about the second part of Paul’s statement? Where does it say the messiah was to be buried and raised up on the third day?

me…..> Jesus said it himself,……Mat 12:40……>…[Read more]

You: Me: Ahhh, NO! I asked  for where Jechoniah asked for forgiveness 

ME: THE ABOVE IS IRRELEVANT, AS JESUS WAS NOT OF JECONIAH, JOSEPH WAS, AND JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF JOSEPH AT ALL. BUT THE SON OF MARY  OF NATHAN!

ANOTHER OF DAVID’S LINEAGE.

This is also also in contrast to Matthew, as Luke begins his genealogy with his own time and goes ba…[Read more]

@Carmel,

Me: I’ve already said all I can; all you have given me are man’s opinions and reasonings for why Jechoniah is listed.

You: ISN’T THAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR?

Me: Ahhh, NO! I asked for where Jechoniah asked for forgiveness and his lineage was restored to David’s throne and listed as a descendant of Jesus. Even if we were to write this of…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>I’ve already said all I can; </span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>all you have given me are man’s opinions and reasonings for why Jechoniah is listed. </span>

ISN’T THAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR?

Also, the prophecy need mean no more than Jeconiah’s immediate sons wouldn’t be kings because the Babylon…[Read more]

Hey there DesireTruth,

YOU: Time to move on; speak on Gal 5:1-12 and how the Jewish male is suppose to accept the Jesus as Paul teaches circumcision doesn’t matter; and relate that to Gen 17:1-14. My assessment of Paul stands; he’s a liar, manipulator, and deceiver; and he’s real good!

ME: How about we relate it to not only Genesis 17 but addit…[Read more]

@Carmel,

You: Isn’t that what you’re doing in Paul’s case, ” I ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES…..”

Me: Funny, I am being condemned for “not reading” all of what Paul says and not putting his words into “context”; yet, this is the same thing that is being done with the Tanakh to support/prove the christian theology. Pick a verse here and there claiming it…[Read more]

@ Jodi,

There seems to be a level of confusion is what we are talking about; what I “don’t care about” is the “equality in giving” you keep inserting into this verse and equating “donations” and “giving” to being paid for services. Paul specifically tells those in Corinth “I robbed other assemblies, taking WAGES from them that I might serve you”;…[Read more]

Hi DT,

You: Couple issues with this passage and claiming it speaks of Jesus; the most glaring and obvious, Jesus was never called “Immanuel.”

Then I would encourage you to read chapter 7 in its entirety (as Jodi says context, context, context and Gene says we shouldn’t be “cherry picking” – like picking one verse out of 25 and not applying it…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: I could careless about everything else you are bringing into this to justify Paul’s wording; his choice of wording for being paid is beyond poor; it’s insulting, to say you “robbed” those who paid you for your teachings!

ME: You say you could care less about everything else, but you yourself said, “the question is why would he refu…[Read more]

Hey there DT.

YOU: I Cor 15:9 “For I am the least of the apostles, who is not worthy to be called an apostle,” and then look at II Cor 11:5 “For I consider myself not at all inferior to those “super-apostles.” You don’t consider this egotistical?

ME: The “super apostles” Paul speaks to in chapter 11 he clearly identifies as FALSE apostles[Read more]

@Carmel,

You posted from Jews for Jesus (sigh):

“The necessity for this exception to the rule became apparent when Isaiah 7:14 prophesied that the Messiah would be born of a virgin:

“Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call his name Immanuel.”

Couple issues with thi…[Read more]

@Danny,

Why don’t you do a big Bible study instead of asking all these questions? You seem like a “young christian.” Instead of telling me to “study”, maybe take your own advice and not rely on the words of those whom you think are telling you truth and verify these words for yourself.

Try using Biblehub. There you can find good comment…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Since we like beating dead horses; who, on payday, says they “robbed” the employer? Most would say their employer “robbed” them looking at the paycheck amount. Who, when providing a legitimate service requiring payment, says they “robbed” the individual? I could careless about everything else you are bringing into this to justify Pau…[Read more]

@Gene,

You preach the law still stands right? Are God’s “laws” not eternal? Jesus seems to think so; didn’t he say that not a stroke or smallest letter will disappear from the “law”?

then when was the last time you sacrifice a lamb for your sins? What did David say concerning sacrifices (Ps 51:16-17); , what did Solomon say concerning…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: What emotion does the term “robbing” conjure in you? How does it make you feel? Would you call the term positive or negative?

ME: Your questioning of “what emotions” conjure in me when I hear the term “robbing”, all the more tells me you aren’t at all invested in sound reasoning and the context of the situation. We are to find tru…[Read more]

Hi DT, and ALL,

You: Copy and pasting an entire page from a website doesn’t really constitute as research;

it just means you looked something up and re-posted it.

Me: IT ALSO MEANS SOMETHING ELSE! JUST READ WHAT I SAID IN MY POST#946135

I am not that KEEN and as familiar as YOU ARE with the Hebrew scriptures I opted to do some r…[Read more]

@desiretruth

Why don’t you do a big Bible study instead of asking all these questions?
Try using Biblehub. There you can find good commentaries on every Bible verse.
Anyway, there are no contradictions in the Bible.

God bless

Hey there DT,

This is a sticking point to me because you assert your position completely ignoring the surrounding text and the circumstances therein.

As you yourself have said, churches paid for Paul to travel to serve other churches giving the gospel. Churches also gave charity to support the needs of other churches and for Paul to also give…[Read more]

DT……You preach the law still stands right? , then when was the last time you sacrifice a lamb for your sins?   When is the last time you kept all “SEVEN”  of the “Holy Days”.  I doubt you even know what they are much less keep then.  If you’re going to be a person, under the works of law, then you better be doing it all yourself , not just mout…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You keep bringing up “donations”; God says charity is good, DO IT!! I’m speaking of Paul being paid and using the word “robbing” to describe being paid but refusing payment from Corinth even though it’s his “right” to be paid as he teaches the gospel.

What emotion does the term “robbing” conjure in you? How does it make you feel? Would…[Read more]