• Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi DT,

    Oh yes, the curse!

    “Record this man as if childless, a man who will not prosper in his lifetime, for none of his offspring will prosper, none will sit on the throne of David or rule anymore in Judah.”

    Well it’s scripturally obvious to me anyway, that this curse was lifted,

    We can read all about Jeconiah’s grandson Zerubbabel in a num…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    Quickly covering your Luke citation, that is one BIG nope! You quote I Chron 17:11 as proof and all you’ve proven is you believe what you were told to believe. There are three passages you need to look up as they parallel each other and reveal who the “son” God is speaking of; sorry to break it to you, it’s not your Jesus – it’s Solomon.…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    You: Read Matthew 1 carefully! He is specifically stating that he is giving us the genetic lineage of Jesus for the purpose to show how he is biologically a son of Abraham and David.

    Me: Except we have King Jechoniah listed in this “lineage”; one who God said was to be remembered as childless. This would mean no descendant if his wou…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi DT,

    I wondered what the latest conversation might be on here.

    You: The most obvious “criteria” of the Messiah is his lineage and both Matthew and Luke say

    Jesus’ daddy is the spirit and therefore

    has no male biological connection to David and Solomon.

    ME: I believe I have given my position on this to you before or at least I have prese…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    The term iniquity is frequently used in scriptures, but what actually is it? How can we know when we our anyone else is committing iniquity? Jesus is going to reject people for being workers of iniquity.  Remember what he said to those who come up to him and say ….>“lord lord, in your name, we have done all these good works, and he will profess un…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi all

    LOVE TRANSFORME

    See what love the Father has shown us, so that we are called children of God! (1 John 3:1)

    It is from the heart of the Father that the floods of divine compassion manifested in Jesus Christ are poured out on the children of men… God allowed his beloved Son, full of grace and truth, to leave a place of ineffable glory to…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    What does the Ezekiel passage of God raising a valley of dry bones have to do with being of the seed of David? Didn’t those “dry bones” once have a biological father? Clothing the bones in skin doesn’t make God their father, what kind of idiotic reasoning is this?!?!?

    How is physical sex an act of Satan? God created it so mankind…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DT,

    You: The most obvious “criteria” of the Messiah is his lineage and both Matthew and Luke say

    Jesus’ daddy is the spirit and therefore
    has no male biological connection to David and Solomon. 
     

    DT, TO START WITH,

    YOU JUST CONFIRMED HOW FEEBLE-MINDED PERSON SPIRITUALLY YOU ARE, WITH EVERY RESPECT, BY SAYING THAT GOD IS NOT IN THE POSITI…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    Do you see how you still haven’t answered my question concerning one verse, Isa 7:14; how is it a “prophecy” foretelling the birth of the Jesus as the writer of Matthew claims? Truthfully answer this one question and explain to me how the writer’s claim is truth and not a lie.

    I see things in black and white; there is no gray. This one v…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT……It’s not just me alone that disagrees with you, but Jodi, T3, and nearly everyone here disagrees with you, haven’t you noticed that yet? They don’t want to dialog with you because no matter what scriptures they and I give you, you find or event a way around them. So it is indeed futile to discuss the issues with you.

    Take Isaiah for example y…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Hi Gene.

    For flat earthers who search on the Internet.

    These popup in my YouTube feed, and if there any good, I post them.

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    I highly recommend you read Matthew 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. In Greek “Peter” means “petros” and could you imagine it means “rock” (Strong’s 4074). Yet, you understand this passage to mean “The power of God”, to “reveal “, in the mind…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT…….You said,”Wasn’t Peter the rock the church would be built on; yet Paul was “greater” in your eye’s and you follow him over Peter?!?!” , another “lie” you and others ignorantly quote, which shows me you actually do not have the “Sprit of Truth’’,  abiding in you, or you would properly understand what Jesus actually was saying  there, and he w…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    Point made and confirmed; you have no idea why you believe what you believe and are simply following the flow of what others have told you.

    You: If you reject Jesus as the true “messiah/ anointed one” of God, And reject Paul and the other apostles as true representatives of Jesus and God the Father, why are you even here?

    Me: Why are you…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DESIRE TRUTH?…..YOUR desire is “your” truth, yours, and thats the problem.  I see both new and old testaments  as  mostly all comparable with each other if seen in the right context,  you on the other hand,  see opposites and total contradictions.  While I would grant you that there some differences in word translations,  I have proven that eve…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    Variants I have no issue with; changing what is said, I have an issue with. Twisting and misusing what is said, I have an issue with. I have given examples of all this corruption in your NT, and you still accept the lies as truth and chastise me saying I shouldn’t “throw out the entire text” but should accept both the truths and lies withi…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Proclaimer,  why are you still kicking this flat earth thing around,  anyone with common sense knows this world is a round sphere. There is no excuse for anyone in todays world,  to not know that. There is a lots more important things to be discussed here, than the flat earth stupidity.

    peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………gene

  • Profile picture of Admin

    Miracle #10456
    evoljpg

    And the first one that crawled on land found a female that had also evolved in the same way so that they could reproduce.

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Trip to Antarctica to destroy Flat Earth … or the Globe
    Numerous flat earthers have declined. Perhaps because they don’t want the truth.

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT…..Yes there are variants in both the new testaments and the Old testaments, but that has to do with translation from one language to another.  But that does not mean you should throw out the entire texts, to fit your own conclusions.  I have shown you where Daniel predicted the birth date of the Messiah Jesus, and you reject it, no matter how…[Read more]

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