The ONLY reason you have to even consider such a thing is that the Bible’s account doesn’t align with Scientism’s account.

Truth can be gained from revelation and science.

If one doesn’t agree with the other, then you need to investigate.

As it turns out, they do agree if you read the scriptures without imposing your limited view.

Despite that,…[Read more]

The Bible says that the earth was formed FROM water.

In 2015, a new volcano came out from water.

So it is made of water according to Mike.

Lol.

Those are words of uncertainty from a person who is battling within himself as he tries to decide whether the Bible or Scientism is the ultimate authority.

Or someone being wise and not making absolute statements where they cannot be warranted.

LU:  Do you believe that John 1:18 in the NASB 1995  refers to Jesus as the only begotten God?

Yes.  Jesus is one of myriads of gods in the scriptures.  His and our God, Yahweh, is the Most High God of all the other gods.  Jesus, as God’s first creation, is the second most high god – and called the only-begotten god in the bosom of the Father beca…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  If Greek text was talking about a river that was not named or identified, it would still use the definite article. John 1:1c doesn’t use the definite article.

Like I said, your copy and paste didn’t address my point – and still doesn’t.  Let me give you a couple of examples.

Acts 28:5-6… But Paul shook the creature off into the fir…[Read more]

Carmel:  I did ask how many morning stars are there mentioned throughout the entire scripture, didn’t I?

I don’t know.  I usually only skim your posts until I can find one semi-rational statement that can be answered by scripture, and then I address that statement without reading the rest of your incoherent drivel.

Scripture does not tell us the…[Read more]

It doesn’t get much simpler than that, Berean.  God’s people are to work for six literal days and rest on the seventh… BECAUSE in six days Yahweh made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all that is in them – and rested on the seventh day. 

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Gene:  I agree with Proclaimer on this, Because it does give the idea that the heavens and earth did already exist at the time of the beginning of this creation on earth.

Gene, the Bible’s very first sentence says that in the beginning, God created the heavens AND the earth, right?  BIG SCIENCE says that the heavens were already in existence fo…[Read more]

Berean:   REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY, TO KEEP IT HOLY.
SIX DAYS SHALT THOU LABOUR, AND DO ALL THY WORK…
FOR IN SIX DAYS THE LORD MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH, THE SEA, AND ALL THAT IN THEM IS, AND RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY.

It doesn’t get much simpler than that, Berean.  God’s people are to work for six literal days and rest on the seventh… BECAUSE in…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: How do you know if God did not destroy life on this earth by water before,

Me: Gene, unaware of you simply mentioned the truth more or less for the simple reason that if you read

Psalm 18:1-20 HEREUNDER, it clearly and literally reveals that the first world of Genesis 1:1 was in the truth flooded alright, but not by God but by…[Read more]

Berean: I BELIEVE THAT THE DAYS MENTIONED IN GENESIS 1 INCLUDE 24-HOUR DAYS, LIKE WE HAVE NOW.  And I believe that is THE TRUTH.

Those are words of truth from a person who holds the Bible up as the ultimate authority.

Proclaimer:  It could be 6 literal 24 hour periods, but it may not be either.

Those are words of uncertainty from a person who is…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Yom’ is the Hebrew word for day but it does have varying meanings.

Luckily, we use the word “day” exactly as the Hebrews used the word “yom” – so it makes it easy for us to see what is meant in Genesis 1.

Proclaimer:  I might say that back in my mothers day, they didn’t have the internet.

Correct.  In fact, I wrote on this thread…[Read more]

Mike:  But the bottom line is simple, Gene… you either believe the BIBLE that the earth is about 6000 years old – or you believe BIG SCIENCE that the earth is 14 billion years old.  Only one of them is true – and try as you might, you’ll never be able to twist the scriptures enough to make them align.  

Adam:  This is the reality of the matter.…

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Berean: Hi Mike 

God through Jesus Christ CREATED EVERYTHING (as far as our earth is concerned) in SIX DAYS of 24 hours, and he rested on the seventh day.

Do You agree?

I 100% absolutely agree with everything you just stated.  🙂🙏

Proclaimer:  Be a truth seeker and you will love God and science.

This describes me.  Of course I know the difference between science and scientism.  I know that science has never once contradicted the scriptures – while scientism is a cult based upon purposely contradicting the scriptures any and every way it can.  You don’t yet realize that the…[Read more]

Mike: …BIG SCIENCE does not allow for a heaven and earth formed entirely from water as their primary building blocks.

Proclaimer:  Wrong! The bible clearly states that God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was void. Then he got to work terraforming the planet. He hovered over the deep / waters. From there he separated night and day a…

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Hi Mike,

You: Offering praise could be considered participating.  This is also how Jesus described his own participation in God’s creation in Proverbs 8:22-31.

  And Jesus is the brightest of all the morning stars, right?

Me: I did ask how many morning stars are there mentioned throughout the entire scripture, didn’t I?

What is the reason tha…[Read more]

Mike……I agree with Proclaimer on this,   Because it does give the idea that the heavens and earth did already exist at the time of the beginning of this creation on earth.  You also should consider the the words “in the beginning” may only be this present creation we now live in , that may not include other earth beginnings that have taken place…[Read more]

Exod.20 

And God spake all these words, saying,
I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the…[Read more]

That is assuming too much.

I can agree that there are 6 stages and the 7th is when God rested from his work.

It could be 6 literal 24 hour periods, but it may not be either.

While a virtual world could take 6 literal days to create, and an AI looking from inside may come to the conclusion that is impossible, we know it is possible because the…[Read more]