BUT

THE WORD WAS GOD

THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING.

But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;

and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

This is right. So the Word is not called The God.

So it is to be understood qualitatively.

Similar to Eve being man. But not the man.

Proclaimer

The fact is all instances of ‘theos’ and ‘logos’ have definite articles in John 1:1-3 except the last mention of ‘theos’.

Me

The Gospel According to Saint John
Chapter 1
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en arch: in the biginning

 hn o logoV : WAS The Word

kai o logoV: AND The Word

 hn proV : WAS WITH/for

ton qeon: The God

 kai qeoV hn o logoV: The Wor…[Read more]

I await your new no1 question or evidence for me to address.

Regards.

Okay, I see you on your knees waving a white flag. I hear you pleading for me to just let you surrender because you think you’ll be able to save face. Request denied! I do not accept your surrender, nor will any quarter be given. I warned you that I would bring you to your knees, and that’s exactly what I’ve done. But I’m not finished until y…

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Interesting – since I brought up a dozen or more brand new points/questions that I’ve never mentioned before just this past weekend. After pointing out that they were brand new arguments, I even said:

Okay good. Let’s go through them one at a time.

From what I read of your posts, you were just regurgitation that which is already debunked or ser…[Read more]

The word “debate” presupposes that both parties are presenting evidence, insights, and rational conclusions that are questioned and scrutinized. Since you have not once presented any of those things, this has been a case of me, Berean and Adam trying to educate you about what the Bible actually teaches, and you putting your fingers in your ear…

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Did what already?  We all see the two scriptures you posted.  We all agree that there will be “coming ages”.  What we can’t see from those scriptures is that there existed any ages at all before the creation of our world… let alone other PHYSICAL ages.

Where are you seeing that in the verses you quoted?

to the only God our Savior be glory, maj…[Read more]

Berean: Hi Carmel

“THEN AT A CERTAIN STAGE GOT CORRUPTED AND DELUGED FOR THE FIRST-EVER TIME! Genesis 1:2”

Can you bring really biblical elements on this point, because what you say seems strange to me, as well as what you declare previously on the “light”
God said: Let there be light
There is nothing to add or subtract

God bless

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Carmel: For God’s  sake:

GENESIS 1:1 IT SAYSIN THE PLURAL: THE HEAVENS…..  WHAT ARE THESE HEAVENS?

Genesis 1:1 also says in the plural: GODS…..  WHO ARE THESE GODS?

Proclaimer: Yup. Did that already.

And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jes…

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Berean: Mike

THANK YOU FOR THIS GOOD AND BEAUTIFUL POST.

🙂👍🙏

Proclaimer: Thank you for debating me on this Mike.

The word “debate” presupposes that both parties are presenting evidence, insights, and rational conclusions that are questioned and scrutinized.  Since you have not once presented any of those things, this has been a case of me, Berean and Adam trying to educate you about what the Bible a…[Read more]

Mike

THANK YOU FOR THIS GOOD AND BEAUTIFUL POST.
Glory and Praise be to our God and His Christ who will soon return to do justice to his chosen ones.
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Psalm 33
…8Let all the earth fear the LORD! Let all the inhabitants of the world tremble before him! 9For he said, and it came to pass; He commands, and she exists. 10The LORD overturns the d…[Read more]

The only epochs/ages that we are told about in scripture are the ones that began 6000 years ago with the creation of our world

Yup. Did that already.

And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, d…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Clearly we have evidence of other epochs in the past. And are told in the Bible about other ages (worlds to come).

The only epochs/ages that we are told about in scripture are the ones that began 6000 years ago with the creation of our world, and the ones to come in the future.  We are told that God’s spirit sons pre-existed the c…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike…….when you create something you bring it forth from nothing, when you make something you make it from something that exists.

Genesis 1:21… So God created the great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters teemed according to their kinds, and every bird of flight after its kind.

Genesis 1:25… God made t…[Read more]

Gene:  We have prexisting petrified trees that have turned to pure Cortez,  that takes tens of thousands of years to happen…

How do you know that, Gene?  Seriously… how do you personally know such a thing?

Hi to all

Past….Now…..Future 

THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.(Ecclesiastes 1:9)

Mathew 24:4 …And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
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Coronavirus is God’s judgment on China’s widespread cruelty towards animals. If you don’t eat meat you are immune. Wait and see.

We waited. But didn’t see.

Proclaimer……APSOLUTE RIGHT “there is no such thing as a “TRINITY” never was and never will be either.  What these false teachers have Done is took the true “image” of Jesus being made into the image of God exactly as we are,  and turned that “image” into their GOD.  AND worship him as their God,  

The apostle Paul prophesied that to happe…[Read more]