Adam:  Hi Mike, thanks for this new thread on “Many Gods of the Bible”. I always wonder how the Hebrew religion developed from the Henotheism to Monotheism.

I know that the Bible is full of all kinds of different gods – just from a straightforward reading of it – and it has always baffled me why people who read the Bible think it only talks abou…[Read more]

Mike……Not knowing the exact definition of the “WORD” GOD is the most important thing , which you have ignored and acted like it not important to this topic.  But in fact if you are going to talk about God or as you believe God’s,  then first establish what the  word actually means is vital to this descussion.   I said God is not a person at a…[Read more]

Carmel: I AGREE above regarding the judgments impending to the land of Israel. 

Genesis 1:2 is a description of the state,

NOT IN WHICH GOD MADE THE EARTH, SINCE IT WAS ALREADY CREATED IN GENESIS 1:1

but to which He was pleased subsequently to reduce it.
Answer please:

DO YOU AGREE 

Of course not, Carmel.  To agree to that, I’d have to agree…[Read more]

Proclaimer: My next question is about your own science and arguments as to why there is a dome, being that air pressure requires it lest the atmosphere is sucked into space.

The Bible is silent on air pressure, and a so-called atmosphere getting sucked into a so-called outer space.  The Bible says that the firmament is the heaven that God c…[Read more]

Origins of Judaism

The origins of Judaism lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, specifically evolving out of the polytheistic ancient Canaanite religion, then co-existing with Babylonian religion, and syncretizing elements of Babylonian belief into the worship of Yahweh as reflected in the early prophetic books of t…[Read more]

Genesis 3… 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, knowing good and evil…

So the serpent told Eve that eating from the tree would make her like the gods, knowing good and evil.  And then Go…

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Proclaimer:  Truth seekers are always open minded and they listen to opposing views until they debunk those views. Whereas, you blindly reject views with no investigation. You make sweeping statements that condemn, but give no proof of why you came to that conclusion.

Adam:  Hi Proclaimer, in fact it’s the other way round…

Thank you for tha…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike……before you start, why not EXPLAIN what the word “SCIENTISM”  means, I have never heard of the word before you mentioned it here.

Hi Gene,

Science is observation, investigation and collection of data.  Science doesn’t draw any conclusions about anything.  It is only the data.

The religion of Scientism is an unquestioning, faith-based…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: No, it is God talking about punishing Judah for abandoning Him…

Me:  AGREE: Jer. 4:23 is clearly in allusion to Genesis. The prophet writes in view of the land of Israel and the judgments impending.

The prophet looks onward to the utter desolation with which God would visit the land of Israel,

the terms being pointedly chosen de…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  The rules state that you state the rules in the first post. Since that wasn’t followed, I guess others just assumed that they could post like other topics.

Fair enough.  Go ahead and leave the posts then.  I will use them to my advantage.

Proclaimer:  I love the Hot Seat. It is designed to get an answer and stop people just ignor…

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Adam:  Hi Mike, I appreciate your honesty here. This is what I am struggling to bring out the erroneous interpretations of the NT writers who had applied the Hebrew texts to suit their biased conceptions to Jesus by taking them out of their original contexts and in bits and parts.

The NT is not what Jesus was talking about when he said not one…[Read more]

Moving on…

Genesis 3… 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, knowing good and evil…

So the serpent told Eve that eating from the tree would make her like the gods, knowing good and…[Read more]

Gene:  GOD the Father, who is Spirit, makes all things , “BY”, His Seven Spirits, the Seven Spirits “OF GOD”,   are the US,  mentioned there.

Thanks for you contribution Gene.  To me, the most obvious and natural understanding is that God was talking to other heavenly beings, likely His spirit sons who were there praising him and shouting for joy…[Read more]

Thanks for the response, Kathi.  The speaker of the words is identified as “God”.  And this “God” is clearly talking to at least one other person who is not the speaker who was identified as “God”.

Then in the following verse…

Genesis 1:27…  So God created man in his own image; in the image of God he created them…

Here we learn that th…[Read more]

Mike…….GOD the Father, who is Spirit, makes all things , “BY”, His Seven Spirits, the Seven Spirits “OF GOD”,   are the US,  mentioned there.  God the Father is the “word” , who sends forth his Seven Spirits into all his creation doing his work.  Remember what Jesus said,  “who soever has ears to hear, LET HIM  HEAR, “WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS”, [Read more]

And IF the writer of Hebrews meant to attribute the words of that psalm to Jesus, he was clearly mistaken – because the entire Bible, including direct statements by Jesus himself, attributes the creation of the heaven and earth to God – not to Jesus.

Hi Mike, I appreciate your honesty here. This is what I am struggling to bring out the err…[Read more]

Mike:  Says the guy who is so ignorant on the issue that he doesn’t even realize that Big Bang, Deep Time Uniformitarianism and Common Descent Evolution aren’t even a part of science at all.

Proclaimer:  Are you trying to impress me with big words?

I’m making the point that these fantasy stories from Scientism that you blindly believe witho…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  You did add in the indefinite article. Greek only uses the definite article or none at all.

Hebrew doesn’t use an indefinite article either.  But I wonder why the KJV added those indefinite articles into the Bible 10,000 times.  Is it wrong of the translators (of EVERY SINGLE English Bible) to add indefinite articles to the He…[Read more]

Mike:  But it is impossible for Jesus to have any of the titles I listed while also being God.

LU:  Correction, it is impossible for Jesus to have any of the titles you listed while also being God the Father. It is not impossible for Jesus to have any of the titles you listed while being the One who is united with the Father as His Son in the Y…

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Mike:  PROCLAIMER, WHAT AND WHERE IS “UNDER HEAVEN” IN YOUR MODEL?

Proclaimer:  On land / a planet / could be the sea if you were on a boat. The heaven or heavens would be the sky.

So you claim that “the heavens” that God created is the vast universe filled with billions of galaxies, and trillions of planets and stars… yet the land and water…[Read more]