• Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Proclaimer, your rules state that you are not allowed to post on the site until you answer the hot seat questions. But you are posting all over the place without once directly answering any of the questions I’ve asked on the hot seat thread. You refused to answer if there is any reason to assume that any of the sun – Earth day/night cycles were…[Read more]

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    Finally; after the Millennium, there will no longer be a sun or moon for Eternity. Isaiah 60:19-20, Revelation 22:5

    I don’t think it says that there will be no sun or moon. Rather, we won’t need the sun or moon. Why? Because the light from the sun and moon will be like a candle compared to the light of God.

    You’ll have no more need of the sun by…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of keras

    In our Bibles the sun and the moon are mentioned many times. Some are allegorical, but most describe actual changes and differences to those visible objects.

    The sun and the moon are established in the heavens, in the known area of space, which continues into infinity. Psalms 74:16, Jeremiah 31:35

    The sun and the moon are also used…[Read more]

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    What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

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    Seriously, not controversial at all. Just ask those active on HN if they agree that being the Son means that he was born of the Father.

    I wouldn’t judge most believers by the active members at this time as they differ substantially. Most understand that the Son has the nature of his Father, but this leads them into fabricated doctrines which is a…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of gadam123

    Not so gadam. If a bible verse can be interpreted say 3 different ways, you ignore the ways that fit with observation or compatibility with other scriptures. You have an agenda to debunk the bible, so of course it is logical that you are anything but neutral.

    You may say I am the opposite and not neutral and that is true too. But I am honest…

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  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Proclaimer,

    You said:

    After all, being the Son means that he was born of the Father and from that, you can easily derive what nature he would have. Further, it wouldn’t be controversial at all.

    Seriously, not controversial at all. Just ask those active on HN if they agree that being the Son means that he was born of the Father.

    Mike says the S…[Read more]

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    Hey Mike. So many errors in your answer. I cannot wait to address them when I have time.

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    Hi Proclaimer, in fact it’s the other way round the logic. I am on neutral ground and without any bias on the ancient texts than most of the religious people. And I make statements based on certain evidences from the historical documents than the biased religious conceptions.

    Not so gadam. If a bible verse can be interpreted say 3 different w…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    Regarding this post:

    LU:  Then the Father (the God no one has seen of John 1:18) said to the Son (the only begotten God of John 1:18), “Let Us make man in Our image (the only begotten God who is the image of the God no one has seen, Col 1:15)…
    How do you know?  Why couldn’t it have been the Son saying, “Let us make man in our image”?

    A…

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  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Hi Adam,

    Have I asked you if you have read the Jewish Targums? Do you know about them?

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You said:

     You are free to have your beliefs about Jesus being the very God he is the servant of – but at least be fair about it.  Don’t go out of your way to purposely mistranslate scriptures to force your belief into the Bible.

    Compare your bias of what I say to what I actually say:

    I will correct your post to say this, look at the diffe…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    In answer to your question, no, physically I don’t cover my head when I pray but I am not opposed to that. Spiritually, I do pray under the covering of who is my head, Jesus.

    Regarding Jerusalem as being called Yahweh our Righteousness:

    A great person often has a city named after them and obviously they are not the city. The city of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    Good conversation, Mike.

    You said:

    So it’s really simple.  Jesus is the son, servant, mediator, prophet, holy one, anointed one, and sacrificial lamb of God.  If “God” is “The Yahweh Unity”, then Jesus is the son, servant, mediator, prophet, holy one, anointed one, and sacrificial lamb of “The Yahweh Unity”.

    Actually that and much more tha…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Carmel, the two scriptures are not “opposite” – just completely unrelated.  Like I said, if your theory is correct, then Jeremiah lived on the “perfect earth”, prophesied about the subsequent creation of the “very good but not perfect” earth, and then lived again on that second earth.

    Do you believe that?  Yes or No?

    Besides, there were still m…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    LU:  Then the Father (the God no one has seen of John 1:18) said to the Son (the only begotten God of John 1:18), “Let Us make man in Our image (the only begotten God who is the image of the God no one has seen, Col 1:15)…

    How do you know?  Why couldn’t it have been the Son saying, “Let us make man in our image”?

    And which one of them was the…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Mike,

    You: Of course not, Carmel. 

    Genesis 1:2 And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters.

    Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and lo it was void, and nothing: and the heavens, and there was no light in them.

    Me: So according to you the above scriptures are…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Adam, that passage you quoted – plus Psalm 82, Luke 4:6, and the Book of Enoch sum up the entirety of the Bible from the spirit realm aspect….

    Deuteronomy 32:8-9… When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. But the…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You said:

    Maybe you could answer the question more specifically.  Who specifically was the speaker saying the words, and who specifically was the speaker saying those words to?

    1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we e…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Gene:  Mike……if you are going to talk about God or as you believe God’s,  then first establish what the  word actually means is vital to this descussion.   I said God is not a person at all,  but a Word that describes a “RELATIONSHIP” and can apply to “ANYTHING”.  do you agree with that, or NOT?

    Hi Gene,

    I use the words “god” and “gods” (NOT God’…[Read more]

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