I am careful to place prophesied events into their correct and logical place.  You seem to miss the Lord’s terrible Day of vengeance and wrath; a worldwide and world changing  disaster. The Sixth Seal, that will happen at least 7+ years before Jesus Returns.

Isaiah 63:1-6 The Lord comes from the godless nations, in His power and majesty, He t…[Read more]

Darius is first mentioned in the story of Belshazzar’s feast (Daniel 5). Belshazzar, king of Babylon, holds a great feast, during which a hand appears and writes on the wall: “MENE, MENE, TEKEL, and PARSIN” (מנא מנא תקל ופרסין‎). Daniel interprets the words: Belshazzar has been weighed and found wanting, and his kingdom is to be divided between…[Read more]

I am trying to picture all this and the succession of beasts. It is quite hard because there is a difference between empires and beasts. At what point does an empire or empires become a beast. I would think when a king controls the empires around him.

This video points out that the Assyrians fought many battles with the Medes. Historian Herodotus…[Read more]

Thanks keras.

I am trying to picture all this and the succession of beasts. It is quite hard because there is a difference between empires and beasts. At what point does an empire or empires become a beast. I would think when a king controls the empires around him.

This video points out that the Assyrians fought many battles with the Medes.…[Read more]

Finally a real satellite photo we can all trust.

Hi Mike,
8435. toledoth
Strong’s Concordance

toledoth: generations

Original Word: תּוֹלְדָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: toledoth
Phonetic Spelling: (to-led-aw’)

Definition: generations

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from yalad

Definition
generations

Aramaic Bible Translated: These are the generations of Heaven and…[Read more]

Strong’s Concordance

toledoth: generations

Original Word: תּוֹלְדָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: toledoth
Phonetic Spelling: (to-led-aw’)

Definition: generations

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from yalad

Definition
generations

Aramaic Bible Translated: These are the generations of Heaven and of Earth when…[Read more]

Mike, he certanly was not sayibg they were real God’s , why because that would make him a liar, and we are told our God , does not lie.

Isa 44:6…..Thus says the LORD the king of Isreal and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; “I am the first, and I am the last; and beside “ME” there is “NO” God.  

Isa 44: 8…..Fear you not neither be afraid; h…[Read more]

There was a King Darius:

Bisotun is located along the ancient trade route linking the Iranian high plateau with Mesopotamia and features remains from the prehistoric times to the Median, Achaemenid, Sassanian, and Ilkhanid periods. The principal monument of this archaeological site is the bas-relief and cuneiform inscription ordered by Darius I,…[Read more]

History attests to the single Mede and Persian empire. Understanding this places the order of empires and consequently, the order of the prophesied kingdoms in the Book of Daniel to:

1. Babylon
2. Media and Persia
3. Greece
4. Rome

Mike, I’m going to have my son over for dinner soon and be tied up till later tonight.

For the sake of this thread, if you are going to be able to understand my view at all, I ask you to put aside your understanding that Yahweh as the God of gods and Lord of lords is only one person, the Father.

I’m not asking you to believe my view but to be…[Read more]

But they ARE two different gods, right? Because if the father is a god and the son is a god, and they are two different individual beings, then there is no other option except for them to be two different individual gods, right?

Whether they act in unison (united in purpose) or not, they’d still be two completely different individual gods – each…[Read more]

They are two different persons who do not act as two different gods but act as one god together.

Berean, are you saying that one of God’s angels created God’s other angels?

Because the Bible chapters you listed don’t teach that as far as I know.

Maybe you could point to the exact verses that you think teach us what you’re telling me.

That doesn’t help with the problem at all.  I’m still trying to find out whether you think the father and the son are two different gods (two individual living beings), or two different persons who comprise one single god (a single living being).

Plus we have this new problem now…

I accept that the father can be both a god of other gods AND a…[Read more]

Let’s try this…

Let’s assume that the God of gods is one person and the Lord of lords is another (as I understand it) and this following statement is true:

Yahweh is the God of gods and the Lord of lords.

If the previous statement is true, then this following statement is not true:

Yahweh is the God of gods but not the Lord of lords.

Hi Mike

Hi Berean, I don’t believe Michael is Jesus.  I understand why some people (like the JWs) do believe that, and the scriptures that cause them to believe it.  I just don’t happen to believe it.  But since Michael is clearly called an archangel in scripture, I’m surprise to see that you believe it – since it would mean that Jesus is angel o…[Read more]

Now I’m confused again. Is the Father a god? Is the Son a god?
If so, we have two different gods who are united in purpose and vision.
By contrast, the Trinity Doctrine says that they are different persons that make up only one god.
I don’t see another option. They are either two persons who comprise one single being (one god), or they are two…[Read more]

I don’t think they are “two individual gods” as if they could be divided as one is god of this and the other is god of that. In the OT, they were the God of Israel together, (not separately or independently) each is his specific role with the Son always under the authority of the Father as a perfect son would be not because he is a lesser being.