mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Hi Mike,</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The fact of the matter is Luke 3:23 is saying that Jesus is the son of Joseph and Mathew makes it certain that we are to believe that he is a bio son of Joseph. Don’t lose sight of that.</span>
Hey Jodi. Mary became pregnant with Jesus before Joseph ever tou…[Read more]
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Yes, God called the raqia heaven. But there are three heavens. (2 Corinthians 12:2)
I agree with Mike and Berean that the raqia is not the highest heaven.Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Proclaimer: You forgot one other point, your God is in the raqia
Mike: No, God is not in the raqia.
Berean :On this point Mike is correct.
I also say:
ACCORDING TO THESE TEXTS BELOW
We can believe that GOD WITH CHRIST IS IN HEAVEN (Third Heaven), IN PARADISE (NOT THE RAQIYA)
1Kgs.8
Then hear thou
in heaven thy dwelling place
, and fo…[Read more]Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi to all
Hère is the Daily Devotional
Love That Is Measureless, January 4
The Lord hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with loving kindness have I drawn thee. Jeremiah 31:3.Those who know not God cannot by their learning or science find out God. Christ does not try to prove the g…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Thats correct Proclaimer, God called the firmament, “heaven”, or sky. IN SHORT, EVERYTHING ABOVE THE EARTH, IS HEAVEN OR HEAVENS.. ie, SKY.
What Mike does is try to change a common understood wording and complicate it, then make up his own rendition for it, this is his common deception process, not only with his “flat earth” , BS, but wi…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
The alleged tilt brings the North Pole 3000 miles CLOSER to the sun at the very time the earth itself is 3,000,000 miles FARTHER from the sun… yet the tiny tilt is supposed to overcome the HUGE increase in distance from the heat source, and somehow make it WARMER? Only an idiot would believe such nonsense.
Mike, stop peddling this lie as it i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Simple Version for Mike
No, God is not in the raqia.
Just in case my post above is too complex for you to comprehend, I offer this trimmed down explanation.
God called the raqia heaven and God dwells IN heaven.
Something is awry with your model.
Lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
No, God is not in the raqia. Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.
Your statement doesn’t align with scripture.
You can point out this or that, but you haven’t answered why your version of heaven / raqia contradicts scripture.
Easy. Let me explain.
Your model is wrong.
Therefore, you lose Mike.
You see…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Proclaimer: You forgot one other point, your God is in the raqia
No, God is not in the raqia. Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now. Please either debunk my debunk, or stop claiming the thing that I already debunked.
We all realize that this is just your way of diverting attention away from your “cloud th…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Gene: Mike…..your drawing has nothing to what i believe or have ever said, so that is a lie…
Boy, your buddy Tater is really teaching you all his bad habits, isn’t he? Now YOU’RE accusing me of lying too?
Okay. But let’s see if I really WAS lying to you.
1. Scripture says God created the raqia to divide the waters above the raqia from t…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
A picture is worth a thousand words, but will it be worth an apology from Pretender? He posted this yesterday…

His false accusations against me stem from the part underlined in red at the top. He somehow has it in his mind that the statement from Eric Dubay that I posted for Berean either directly states or implies that the “scientific c…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Mike,
Back to Luke,
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24 the son of…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Mike,
If you could please address the below,
Matthew 1 is giving us the BOOK of Jesus’s origin, his genetic line of whom he was begotten from to establish that he is thus a bio son of Abraham and David, that BOOK OF JESUS’s origin goes from Abraham to Joseph. Joseph is without question the bio father of Jesus according to Matthew. Mary became…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Mike,
Here is one,
Romans 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.
In the OT in Isaiah 11:10 this word root/ sheresh figurately means, of people involving firmness or permanence, in Isaiah 11:1
Rev 221:6 I Jesus have sent mine angel to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Mike…..your drawing has nothing to what i believe or have ever said, so that is a lie, but it is more like your “flat earth” BS, WHERE “YOU” BELIEVE, THE SUN AND MOON ARE WITHIN “THE DOME”. Don’t try to pass if of on something i said. Because that, is a lie.
What you only prove is this, “it’s hard to catch a snake, in a brair patc…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
You forgot one other point
The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures teach – with the exception that the artist put the sun, moon and stars just below the raqia, when they are actually IN the raqia.
God called the raqia heaven. And God dwells in heaven. So you and Danny also need to place God below the waters where the stars a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Stop lying Mike
Clearly you were misleading berean about the sun distance being the consensus on these varying temperatures. Grow up and own it Mike. You live in a fantasy pizza world where lies are truth and truth are lies. You even lie about the very statement you were clearly making. You said:
If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 9 months ago
Proclaimer: Danny God called the raqia heaven and scripture is clear that God is in heaven. So you need to place God below the waters if you are sticking to your definition of raqia / dome. Please amend. If not,then you do not really believe this and you should be honest about that.
The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures…[Read more]
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