mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Yes Danny, I noticed that right away. In fact that’s why I brought that very point up as a DIRECT question to him yesterday. So far, crickets from both him and Gene. 🙄
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: Hi Mike,
You are asking that I don’t apply what I know to a passage, take away/hide the truth and understanding I have and then read a passage as if I am blind, that’s ridiculous, that’s a game I don’t want to play with you Mike.
What? When have I asked you to do any of that? I merely pointed out two contradictory statements you made i…[Read more]
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
You know that Proclaimer bombarded us with Genesis 1:8
Raqia is called heaven – God dwells in heaven.Well, then I quoted* this to him:
In Gen. 1:8 God calls the firmament “heaven” (Hebrew shamayim). That turns out to give little additional definition to what the firmament (raqia) is, since in all the cases in Genesis 1 whe…[Read more]Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
You are asking that I don’t apply what I know to a passage, take away/hide the truth and understanding I have and then read a passage as if I am blind, that’s ridiculous, that’s a game I don’t want to play with you Mike.
Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Even though Kathi’s unscriptural and nonsensical doctrine has been demolished by Jesus himself, I still want to get some closure on this subject that is important to me…
LU: Jesus confirmed that He is properly called “God.” If the created beings were called god, how much more the uncreated and only begotten Son of God would be called “God…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
LU: John is not referring to the Father alone as God.
John 1:18… No one has ever seen God…
Is John referring to the Father ALONE as “God” in those words above? Your statement above has been debunked.
But let’s use a different verse to make sure…
John 3:16… For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever b…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Word, Titus 1:2 and 1 John 1:1-2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Good Morning Gene,
I don’t mind at all, thank you!
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Word, Titus 1:2 and 1 John 1:1-2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Jodi, I, transfered this from your last post to Mike, because i thought it is so important for everyone to read…….Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days. 3 Therefore will…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike: Would you agree that the most straightforward reading of Micah 5:2 tells of a future ruler who has already been around for a long time?
Jodi: Actually no, reading it straight forward I see,
from you (Judah) shall “come forth” a ruler in Israel, which would be a prophecy, then reading, “whose coming forth” is from of old, from an…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Jodi……Sorry to but in Sis, but you are apsolutely 100% right. Hope Mike and others are able to follow and understand your last post clearly.
Peace and love to you and yours……….gene
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type? Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?
Do you believe that the Father and Son act as two opposing gods
OR
two beings who are both in the form of God acting interdependently towards the same purpose?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
If the Father ALONE can be “God” for John, then there’s no reason that the Father ALONE can’t ALWAYS be “God” for everyone.
John 1:18:
How many are called “God” here, Mike:
No one has ever yet seen God. The only begotten God, the One being in the bosom of the Father, He has made Him known.
Is John referring to two persons as…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days. 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his bre…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Is my last statement above correct, Kathi?
NO. Start from the first page of the topic. Count the verses.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
Regarding Israel as a “him,” if I remember right, Jerusalem is being referred to within Israel (him/he) and Jerusalem is a “her/she.”
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Danny,
You said: If Jesus is Yahweh then Jesus is His own Father.
OR
Jesus was given His Father’s name.
John 17:11…Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one. 12While I was with them, I protected and preserved them by Your name, the name You gave Me.
Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the da…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Alrighty, so if I am hearing you right you see Jesus as being born of God as a Son of God 3 times, first overall of the creation that God says will pass away, second when he was born of Mary, and lastly when he rose from the dead.
As you could probably figure at this point, I believe Jesus was born a human, then he was born of the Spirit at the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Oh gosh, I haven’t ever talked to text, lol, that was just my own error. I think it’s weird because I am so use to writing these things and not speaking much that I would almost prefer to write to someone and have them read it and then discuss it, than speak to them directly about it. It comes out clearer and more in depth if I am writing it out.…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: This man from the tribe of Judah whose origin is from ancient of days being of the seed of Abraham would come forth to be a ruler in Israel according to God’s word from ancient of days, from the time of Abraham and even before, from the beginning.
Notice that, even according to your own words above, it is the MAN whose origin is from an…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: lol I just realized that I said out ways instead of out weighs, oops. I am sure you knew what I meant
Yeah, I knew. I just figured you were doing talk-to-text and that’s how your phone spelled it. 😅
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