Mike……. Proclaimer is right when you are confronted with a truth you can deny, you simply change subjects and devert to something else.  Your not honest at all,  take the many times i have said thatcanyone can take a cheep pair of benoclures and see the ISS, traveling around this earth,, 24 hours a day every second of every day.  , showing us…[Read more]

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Hi Mike,

What is illogical, is to be told that we are being given the BOOK of Jesus’s ORIGIN, where then THAT BOOK given goes from Abraham TO JOSEPH, where that BOOK is said to be Jesus’s GENETIC LINE showing that he is a bio son of Abraham and a bio son of David, and then turn and say that Joseph is Jesus’s ADOPTED father.

That’s just not…[Read more]

This Flat Earther owes $100,000 when his challenge is completed
Of course he didn’t pay.

What truth have I rejected?  What verifiable, unequivocal empirical data have you presented in support of this truth, which I then rejected?

See. You have been given dozens of proofs  but you simply ignore them. Maybe you don’t even read them.

Let’s start with the fact that the sun sets. The heliocentric model predicts it, but not the flag e…[Read more]

Pretender, since you refused to honor the previous question by producing any scripture that makes it explicitly clear that the days in Gen 1 are anything other than regular 24 hour days (each with a single morning and a single evening, and equated to literal days by God Himself in Ex 20:11 and 31:17), I will accept this refusal as a direct answer…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Read my own words Mike. I acknowledge how unfair it is to censor truth. But a line does need to be drawn with bottom of the barrel  low quality rubbish posts.

But YOU and GENE are the only ones here making bottom-of-the-barrel low quality rubbish posts!  The rest of us are having honest and respectable discourse about a very in…[Read more]

Read your own words there, Sport.  Is the Left doing it because the Right is “posting the most foolish crap all the time”?

Read my own words Mike. I acknowledge how unfair it is to censor truth. But a line does need to be drawn with bottom of the barrel  low quality rubbish. Further  because you reject truth nit guaranteed you will propaga…[Read more]

Gene:  He is in a debat now with Jodi. And she is posting amazing bibical truths here that could help us all grow, and no matter how many scriptures and time  She takes  to prove her points over and over,  he will not except them. It is obvious to me his intrest is not to search for truth and growing, but to devert from the truth and corrupt sou…

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Gene: Mike is a expert at causing distraction from the truth…

I used to think he was a intellegent person, but i have changed my view , he is not… 

Gene, if you’ve got time to post insults, then you’ve got time to answer 3 very easy Yes or No questions, right?  So why HAVEN’T you answered them? 🤔
GENE AND PROCLAIMER:
IF YOU GUYS ARE TRULY TR…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  What I’d like to know is why you flat earthers keep going. You get utterly demolished in every single debate, yet you keep coming back. Usually with the same debunked garbage.

How can we be “demolished” by someone too afraid to even have the conversation?  How could it have been “debunked” when you are too afraid to even TALK abo…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Mike, can you quote the post number where you have brought back the sun.

Asked and answered… many, many times.

Proclaimer: Mike, I asked you a question in our debate.

Chop chop.

It is the last post.

No excuses because it is easy to find, so not time wasted looking for it.

Who do you think I am… YOU?  😅  I logged on, saw your post, and then immediately answered the Hot Seat question before posting a single thing anywhere else on this site – as per th…[Read more]

Gene and Pretender:
IF YOU GUYS ARE TRULY TRUTH SEEKERS, AND THERE’S NO REASON TO HIDE FROM THE TRUTH, PROVE IT BY ADDRESSING THIS REQUEST THAT I’VE MADE MANY TIMES ALREADY…
Please explain why your interpretation of  Gen 1 has God creating light after it already existed, creating heaven after it already existed, creating earth after it al…[Read more]

GENE AND PROCLAIMER:
IF YOU GUYS ARE TRULY TRUTH SEEKERS, AND THERE’S NO REASON TO HIDE FROM THE TRUTH, PROVE IT BY ANSWERING ALL 3 OF THESE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, WITH A YES OR A NO.
1. ARE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS IN THE RAQIA? YES OR NO?
2. ARE THE WATERS ABOVE THE RAQIA?  YES OR NO?
3. DOES THIS REQUIRE THE WATERS TO BE ABOVE THE SUN, MOON, AN…[Read more]

Thanks for posting that great info again.  Based on Proclaimer’s and Gene’s most recent posts, neither of them are interested in truth – or they WOULD address your post, and my direct questions pertaining to it…
Pretender and Gene:
God created the raqia on Day 2.
1.  Where was God living before then?
2.  Did God move into the raqia after He cr…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

No, it doesn’t refute my argument as you have misunderstood my position.

The seed of Abraham would be the Christ and Christ is a savior and a ruler overall the nations where by this seed of Abraham they are blessed.

Acts 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham,…[Read more]

Yes, God named the raqia heaven.  No, raqia doesn’t mean “expanse”.

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Proclaimer, would you please address what I posted.
Here is it again:
In Gen. 1:8 God calls the firmament “heaven” (Hebrew shamayim). That turns out to give little additional definition to what the firmament (raqia) is, since in all the cases in Genesis 1 where God puts a name to something, there is never a one-to-one correspondence to the…[Read more]