• Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Seventh Day Adventist YES
    BUT FOR THE REST IF THE EARTH IS A GLOBE OR FLAT, IT IS SECONDARY FOR ME.
    I WANT TO BE GUIDED BY THE SURE AND SOLID WORD OF GOD.

    That means you’re a flat earther or undecided at this point. People will assume your are naive which may explain why you belong to a denomination in the first place.

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Proclaimer………Amen, to that,…….One reason people leave is because their arguments have been defeated. And surely Mike, this applies to you perhaps more than any other member here.

    Your gospel is debunked.

    Romans 16:18
    For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    THUNDERSTORM BLESSINGS 

    We know thunder as the sonic shockwave created by lightning. Though scientists are still exploring the exact cause of the shockwave, one theory considers as a factor the extreme heat generated by lightning. The average temperature inside a bolt of lightning has been estimated at…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    One reason people leave is because their arguments have been defeated. And surely Mike, this applies to you perhaps more than any other member here.

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Danny:  Proclaimer, you are not able to make a normal conversation.
    Instead of addressing the valid points you just insult and slander…
    Proclaimer, you are a liar, a coward and a hypocrite.
    I’m done with you.
    You can delete me from YOUR forum.
    Goodbye guys, especially Mike, you were a godsend!

    AMEN, brother!  I read Pretender’s last posts (an…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Mike: John 1:18… No one has ever seen God

    Is John referring to the Father ALONE as “God” in those words above?

     

    LU:  He was referring to the Father

    Thank you.  So your previous claim is debunked, and my statement remains undeniable…
    If the Father ALONE can be “God” for John, then there’s no reason that the Father ALONE can’t ALWAYS be “G…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Mike:  KATHI, ARE THE “CREATED BEINGS” WHO ARE CALLED GODS IN PSALM 82 HUMAN SONS OF GOD OR SPIRIT SONS OF GOD?

     

    LU:  I don’t think they are humans. I think they are not of this earthly realm but from another realm and possibly given charge over different gentile nations when the language was confused at Babel.

    Thank you.  And if not humans,…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Was there a time when the Father was not the “Father?”

  • Profile picture of Admin

    The one true God the Father is an uncreated Spirit.

    The Son of God was begotten by the Most High God who is the Father.

    He is the Father of spirits and the father of the son.

    The Son of God came in the flesh.

    While the Bible is not clear, as the Word he was likely spirit.

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    Regarding my last post here, see this as an example:

    1 Samuel 3:21

    21And the LORD continued to appear at Shiloh, because there He revealed Himself to Samuel by His word (the Only Begotten God, Yahweh our Righteousness).

     

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    Regarding this:

    John 3:16… For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    Is John referring to the Father ALONE as “God”?

    Do you think that the only begotten Son took a break from being the only begotten God in that verse? Is He not essentially the only…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    Regarding this:

    LU:  John is not referring to the Father alone as God.
    John 1:18… No one has ever seen God…

    Is John referring to the Father ALONE as “God” in those words above?  Your statement above has been debunked.

    He was referring to the Father that was not alone.  He had the only begotten God in His bosom.

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You asked:

    KATHI, ARE THE “CREATED BEINGS” WHO ARE CALLED GODS IN PSALM 82 HUMAN SONS OF GOD OR SPIRIT SONS OF GOD?

    I don’t think they are humans. I think they are not of this earthly realm but from another realm and possibly given charge over different gentile nations when the language was confused at Babel.

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Hi Danny,

    Did you respond to my post here:

    Hi Danny,

    You said: If Jesus is Yahweh then Jesus is His own Father.
    OR

    Jesus was given His Father’s name.

    John 17:11…Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one. 12While I was with them, I protected and preserved them by Your name, the name Y…

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  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Thanks for your answers. I’m glad that we agree on these points:

    The Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type.

    The Father and the Word are of a different type to the created spirit beings.

    Can you agree that the Father and the Word both, individually have the form of god?

     

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Good bye.

    Please ask forgiveness for the multiple lies your post.

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @t8

    Proclaimer, you are not able to make a normal conversation.
    Instead of addressing the valid points you just insult and slander.
    You are one of them Freemasons. I know it because you
    are using their misleading “C” sign in your name and in your profil picture.
    MC Proclaimer, you are a liar, a coward and a hypocrite.
    I’m done with you.
    You can…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Admin

    Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type?

    I agree.

    Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?

    Yes.

    But the Son / Word was begotten,

    God wasn’t begotten. He has always been.

    God > Word / Son > Creation.

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    Metamorphic rocks are created when other types of rocks are transformed due to great pressure and heat within the earth. The meaning of the term “metamorphic,” in fact, is “changed.” When igneous rocks, sedimentary rocks, or even metamorphic rocks get buried very deep under the earth’s surface, they get…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    My turn for a question. Let me think about this one.

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