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    Mike,

    You said:

    See?  Not charged for claiming to be God, but for claiming to be a heavenly son OF God, ie: A god.

    Mike, Jesus is claiming to be the elohim of Psalms 82:8.  The Jews knew the Messiah was the Son of God that they were supposed to “Kiss” and “take refuge in” from Psalms 2. However, they were thinking that Jesus, who was claiming t…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago

    Hi Jodi,

    You put up a verse from Titus. Would you mind telling us why Jesus is called “our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ.”

    Titus 2:11For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to everyone. 12It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live sensible, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 13as we…[Read more]

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    Gene:  Mike……EVERYONE  knows,  when you look up into the  “skys/ heavens, you can see the stars, the sun,  moon, and EVEN clouds , that contntan water and rains on this earth…

    Yes Gene.  But the waters above are above the stars, so they are not clouds.  Listen once again…

    God created the raqia to separate the waters below the raqia from t…[Read more]

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    Berean, 👍🙂🙏😁

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    Jodi:  Mike, yes I understand that if you believe “I am” is to be interpreted through historical present tense, the meaning would be rendered as “I existed”. 

    I get it,  just as the Jews thought you think likewise, the only way for Jesus to have said what he said is if Jesus existed during Abraham’s day, so in verse 58 Jesus was extending to…

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    Jodi:  …but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things…

    For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God…

    I agree that God’s servant Jesus spoke about things he learned from God.  But look who’s actually doing the speaking…

    My Father taught me X, so I will say X to you.  My Father told me to speak X, so I will speak X to yo…[Read more]

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    Thank you Mike for pointing out the realities of psalm 148.

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    Mike……EVERYONE  knows,  when you look up into the  “skys/ heavens, you can see the stars, the sun,  moon, and EVEN clouds , that contntan water and rains on this earth, only an apsolute idiot, would not know that, IMO.

    MIKE,  You pointed the gun at your own head and pulled the trigger a long time ago , no one needs to do it for you , you did…[Read more]

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    Pretender and Gene (I Saw It On TV) Balthrop…

    1.  According to scripture, is there only ONE raqia?  YES or NO?  (If “NO”, please include your scriptures that speak of more than one of them.)

    2.  According to scripture, are the sun, moon and stars IN the very thing that the waters are ABOVE?  YES or NO?

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    Mike: Using “expanse”, Genesis 1 says God created the expanse to separate the waters below the expanse from the waters above the expanse.

    You say that this refers to the space between the sea and the clouds. Okay.

    A few verses later we’re told that God created the sun, moon and stars and placed them in THAT expense.

     

    Proclaimer:  THAT expanse…

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    Proclaimer:  Thanks gene. Mike is definitely batting for the other team.

    You got that right.  And if I ever think of joining the anti-scriptural team that you and Gene are on, please just put a bullet in my head.

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    Berean:  This is what Genesis 1 teaches.

     

    Proclaimer:  Bahahaha! Great comeback Berean. You roasted me.

    This little exchange sums up the entire debate quite nicely.  There are people pointing out what God’s written word actually says about a matter, and other people LAUGHING at what God’s written word says about it – as if “this is what the sc…[Read more]

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    Gene:  Mike is still trying to play his smoke and mirror games with you,  the true fact is that the word raqia, simply means,  in English,   the Sky, or Heavens,  which simply means whats out or  up there,  from the earth, we live on.  

    Okay Gene, then all you need to do is tell me about the waters that are ABOVE the “Sky/Heavens/What’s out or up…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    HOW IS IT THAT JESUS CAN BRING US PEACE, BUT THE BIBLE ALSO SAYS HE CAME TO BRING A SWORD? 

    In Matthew 10:34, when Jesus says, “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth,” He really means: “I did not come to bring political peace.” The Word of God brings division. Hebrews 4:12 says, “The word of Go…[Read more]

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    Gene:  You said, “NO”,  to my question about the ISS  “INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION”  that anyone can see for themselves traveling around our earth 24/7 , 365 days a year , transmitting it’s view of this earth to us,  EVERY SECOND of every day .  NOW sense your a real “honest person” as you present yourself, then please proceed to tell us , w…

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    Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Place two basketballs next to each other. They are both globes right. So there are angles in play and you can get that result. You would only see it always above if the earth and moon were 2D.</span>

    <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Once again you were bamboozled by the third dimension and the angle of…

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: YOU HAVE MADE THE MAN JESUS , your object of worship ,
    not realizing by doing so you are rejecting God the Father. 
     

    Gene, GO BACK TO MY POST AND READ WHERE I MADE IT CLEAR TO YOU THAT

    WE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE REJECTED GOD, OUR FIRST-EVER LOVE, ONLY

    ONCE AND FOR ALL IN THE GARDEN WHEN ADAM AND EVE, SINNED AND OPTED TO SERVE…[Read more]

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    Admin replied to the topic Who is Elon Musk? in the forum The Hot Seat 3 years, 8 months ago

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    We have BC which means before Christ and AD which means The Year of our Lord. So the year now is 2022 meaning that Jesus was born 2022 years ago in year 1AD. But does this agree with history? The answer is no.

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    But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.

    He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”

    Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]

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