Mike……EVERYONE  knows,  when you look up into the  “skys/ heavens, you can see the stars, the sun,  moon, and EVEN clouds , that contntan water and rains on this earth, only an apsolute idiot, would not know that, IMO.

MIKE,  You pointed the gun at your own head and pulled the trigger a long time ago , no one needs to do it for you , you did…[Read more]

Pretender and Gene (I Saw It On TV) Balthrop…

1.  According to scripture, is there only ONE raqia?  YES or NO?  (If “NO”, please include your scriptures that speak of more than one of them.)

2.  According to scripture, are the sun, moon and stars IN the very thing that the waters are ABOVE?  YES or NO?

Mike: Using “expanse”, Genesis 1 says God created the expanse to separate the waters below the expanse from the waters above the expanse.

You say that this refers to the space between the sea and the clouds. Okay.

A few verses later we’re told that God created the sun, moon and stars and placed them in THAT expense.

 

Proclaimer:  THAT expanse…

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Proclaimer:  Thanks gene. Mike is definitely batting for the other team.

You got that right.  And if I ever think of joining the anti-scriptural team that you and Gene are on, please just put a bullet in my head.

Berean:  This is what Genesis 1 teaches.

 

Proclaimer:  Bahahaha! Great comeback Berean. You roasted me.

This little exchange sums up the entire debate quite nicely.  There are people pointing out what God’s written word actually says about a matter, and other people LAUGHING at what God’s written word says about it – as if “this is what the sc…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike is still trying to play his smoke and mirror games with you,  the true fact is that the word raqia, simply means,  in English,   the Sky, or Heavens,  which simply means whats out or  up there,  from the earth, we live on.  

Okay Gene, then all you need to do is tell me about the waters that are ABOVE the “Sky/Heavens/What’s out or up…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

HOW IS IT THAT JESUS CAN BRING US PEACE, BUT THE BIBLE ALSO SAYS HE CAME TO BRING A SWORD? 

In Matthew 10:34, when Jesus says, “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth,” He really means: “I did not come to bring political peace.” The Word of God brings division. Hebrews 4:12 says, “The word of Go…[Read more]

Gene:  You said, “NO”,  to my question about the ISS  “INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION”  that anyone can see for themselves traveling around our earth 24/7 , 365 days a year , transmitting it’s view of this earth to us,  EVERY SECOND of every day .  NOW sense your a real “honest person” as you present yourself, then please proceed to tell us , w…

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Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Place two basketballs next to each other. They are both globes right. So there are angles in play and you can get that result. You would only see it always above if the earth and moon were 2D.</span>

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Once again you were bamboozled by the third dimension and the angle of…

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Hi Gene,

YOU: YOU HAVE MADE THE MAN JESUS , your object of worship ,
not realizing by doing so you are rejecting God the Father. 
 

Gene, GO BACK TO MY POST AND READ WHERE I MADE IT CLEAR TO YOU THAT

WE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE REJECTED GOD, OUR FIRST-EVER LOVE, ONLY

ONCE AND FOR ALL IN THE GARDEN WHEN ADAM AND EVE, SINNED AND OPTED TO SERVE…[Read more]

the bird is freed

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 28, 2022

But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.

He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”

Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]

Using “expanse”, Genesis 1 says God created the expanse to separate the waters below the expanse from the waters above the expanse.

You say that this refers to the space between the sea and the clouds. Okay.

A few verses later we’re told that God created the sun, moon and stars and placed them in THAT expense.

God separated the waters with an ex…[Read more]

So your understanding, where the clouds are the waters above the expanse, requires the sun, moon and stars to be in the raqia that is between the sea and the clouds, since it is the ONLY raqia God ever created.

God called the raqia – heaven. How many heavens are there again?

But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.

He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”

Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]

Thanks gene. Mike is definitely batting for the other team.

Gene
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Mike is still trying to play his smoke and mirror games with you,  the true fact is that the word raqia, simply means,  in English,   the Sky, or Heavens,  which simply means whats out or  up there,  from the earth, we live on.  

But you see,  he has us talking about his  stupid ideas, which are only destractions from more impor…[Read more]

Berean……Actually is should read , “Jesus, thought not to rob God , by making himself equal with him , but humbled himself and became obedient unto him , even to the death on the cross” .  But even if you read the way you do, it still shows Jesus’,  “first love” Was God the Father , not himself, or anyone else either.  If we don’t develope the…[Read more]