Jesus is speaking through/on account of what YHVH had taught him.

Jesus is speaking through/on account of the Spirit of YHVH living in him.

I didn’t speak incorrectly the word through has multiple meanings,

of place
with
in
of time
throughout
during
of means
by
by the means of
through
the ground or reason by which something is or is not done
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Hi Mike,

You are trying to claim something ridiculous I never said or meant. 

Jesus says that he speaks according to what the Father has taught him.

You said it, you agree, that Jesus spoke about things that God taught him.

YHVH spoke to Abraham through an angel, Jesus was not there. YHVH, who called Abraham a prophet, taught Jesus that the…[Read more]

Proclaimer……I agree,  i think our planet is very old , and i believe there were several flood that took place in the past. The flood in the days of Noah , was just the most recent,  our fossil records show the other floods that took place on this earth, in the past.

I didn’t realize that AD meant what you said , i thought it meant “after h…[Read more]

The world means ‘age’. It is aeon or eon.

But the planet is probably very old and could even have had other worlds / ages / aeons.

to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

Mike it’s Monday Meme day

A good saying that should be heeded.

Mike, does the sun travel at mach 2.7 or thereabouts?

Genesis 1:7… Thus God made the raqia, and divided the waters which were under the raqia from the waters which were above the raqia.

Very simple question:  Does this scripture say there are waters above the raqia itself?  Yes or No?

Genesis 1:14-17…  Then God said, Let there be lights in the raqia of the heavens…  God set them in the raq…

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What do you mean “if” he was right?  Are you saying it’s possible that he was WRONG?  Yes or No?

David would not have been a perfect man. He may be right or wrong if he was referring to the second heaven.

I cannot verify which because Webb Telescope has not imaged a water layer outside the cosmos itself. If that happens, then I could be definit…[Read more]

Mike, you need to take a long hard look in the mirror.

Life is short and we will meet our maker soon enough.

But you can only change while you are here.

Be wise and take advantage of the time you have left.

Pretender: He would be right if we are talking about the first heaven…

And what does the context tell us?  He has intentionally broken the psalm up into “things of heaven” and “thing of earth”.  The sun, moon, stars and waters above the heavens are all listed in the “things of heaven” category, while he lists clouds, not only in the “things of…[Read more]

Mike:  The sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia, and the waters above are ABOVE the entire raqia.

 

Proclaimer:  Nope.

Okay, here we go again…

Genesis 1:7… Thus God made the raqia, and divided the waters which were under the raqia from the waters which were above the raqia.

Very simple question:  Does this scripture say there are waters ab…[Read more]

He would be right if we are talking about the first heaven.

If he is talking about the second heaven, then he may or may not be right. But if he was right and there is water outside the cosmos, then we haven’t discovered it yet. But this has no bearing on the shape of the earth, so you have lost. This is not evidence the earth is flat is…[Read more]

Mike:  Okay, then you ARE saying he is right.  Great.  Then please tell us what and where these waters above the heavens are.  Thanks.

 

Pretender:  Nope. I am reminding you that you need to be careful about establishing doctrine from such words.

Actually, you’re trying to stall.  Just tell me plainly if the writer of Psalm 148 was right or wr…[Read more]

Tiger: I am the winner

Mike: here’s a video of a man who is a shapeshifter. Look at his eyes when he blinks.

That is pretty much what has happened here.

Okay, then you ARE saying he is right.  Great.  Then please tell us what and where these waters above the heavens are.  Thanks.

Nope. I am reminding you that you need to be careful about establishing doctrine from such words. If we did that with all words in the bible, then we would need to craft a doctrine about Jesus having a demon. That is th…[Read more]

Pretender:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>I win, you lose.</span>

Really?

Mike:  <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Here’s a way you and I can actually have a respectable discussion about this issue.</span>

Pretender:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>NO!  I’m not interested in an actual discussion about it because you’ll likely expose my premise as fla…[Read more]

The sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia, and the waters above are ABOVE the entire raqia.

Nope. That raqia is the division created by the waters only.

God had already created the heavens and the earth in the beginning.

Sky is what we see when we look up. It is obvious that the clouds are in the sky and stars are in the sky. Speaking of the…[Read more]

Pretender:  I am stating that men say things in the bible that are not true…

We’re talking about a writer OF scripture making HIS OWN claim about our Biblical earth.  We’re NOT talking about a writer of scripture QUOTING Satan or someone else telling a lie.

You are trying to conflate the two, and I’m merely exposing your flawed plan.

So f…[Read more]

Mike, the more you argue, the more I win.

You are making me more of a winner.

But I don’t take the credit myself because I have to admit that arguing for the truth is easy.

Telling lies and more lies to cover those lies is difficult.

This is why you are consistently losing mike.