Gene

When are you going to BE HONEST WITH THE TRUTH?

COLOSSIANS 1
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oti en autw ektisqh ta panta ta en toiV ouranoiV kai ta epi thV ghV ta orata kai ta aorata eite qronoi eite kuriothteV eite arcai eite exousiai ta panta di autou kai eiV auton ektistai

1:16 For👉 BY (en) HIM were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,…[Read more]

Proclaimer you said…….”Here we do indeed see that all was created for him. But it also says through him too. But you would have to say for him and for him making both words mean the same thing. And then this scripture doubles down with our view when it says ‘he is before all things”.

Obviously you do not believe he is the Word of God like mos…[Read more]

You could stop posting instead like you said you would.

Dia” , i will assume you all agree with it, right?

Not necessarily. I was just pointing out that if you do something for someone, they usually exist.

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created b…[Read more]

Gene
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COLOSSIANS 1
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oti en autw ektisqh ta panta ta en toiV ouranoiV kai ta epi thV ghV ta orata kai ta aorata eite qronoi eite kuriothteV eite arcai eite exousiai ta panta di autou kai eiV auton ektistai 

1:16 For👉 BY (EN) him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or d…[Read more]

Gene

You are wrong Gene, God created everything THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.
IT IS HIS NATURAL HERITAGE TO HAVE ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD THE FATHER: OMNIPOTENCE, OMNISCIENCE, OMNIPRESENCE.
.…without him was not any thing made that was made….(John 1:3)
all things were created BY HIM , and FOR HIM….(Colossians 1:16)
AND TO CONCLUDE :
👉And he is…[Read more]

@t8

You have banned Mike unfairly.
He did talk about Biblical cosmology.
Again, in solidarity with Mike, I ask you to ban me from this forum too, coward.

To seening no body has come up with a different meaning i posted about the Greek  word “Dia” , i will assume you all agree with it, right? So with that understanding then , we know that God himself created everything that exists, for “the purpose of his plan for all humanity, the “Man” Jesus being the first human being, to achieve his planned g…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

DOES THE BIBLE SUPPORT CAPITAL PUNISHMENT?

The Scriptures don’t deal directly with the notion of a secular government’s use of capital punishment. While it’s clear that God places a high value on human life—“You shall not murder” (Exodus 20:13)—in the theocracy of Old Testament Israel, capital punishmen…[Read more]

What’s the charge?

@admin

In solidarity with Mike, I ask you to ban me too from this forum, coward.

Carmel……Yes i do keep repeating what Jesus said, (not me),  the question is do you “truly believe him,  and what he ‘actually’ says, Thats the question here Carmel. If you truly believed those words of his (not me),  then you would also understand he could not have “himself” Created anything , no more then you or i can. He was a real huma…[Read more]

Proclaimer, Carmel, Berean, and all, can we all agree that God had a “plan” in mind….. (a detaild purpose for doing something)  nothing he did or dose  is without a reason, and purpose,  Yes or No.  ?

I am keeping this simple for now on purpose, can we all agree with the above, I am assuming you all will say,  yes , if not, please fill free…[Read more]

Admin……..Good call , no sense mixing up good and honest bibical dialog with Mikeboll’s “flat earth” garabage.

Peace and love to you and yours………..gene

Hi Gene,

YOU: Jesus plainly said he himself could do “nothing of himslf” , so how could he have ever created anything.

ME: Gene You keep on repeating the same reasoning that JESUS COULD DO NOTHING OF HIMSELF, But your carnal reasoning with every respect is so corrupted that you never see the other side of Jesus’ own words.

Answer plea…[Read more]

Proclaimer……..Your trip word is the word “through” and “by” It comes from the Greek word “dia”, which carries a completely different sense then the English words do, you see it as meaning thats how the world and everythibg was actually created by, but the Greek word “Dia” carries a difference sense, it carries the idea, of the “reason for” someth…

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John 1:3
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panta di autou egeneto : All things were made by him

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kai cwriV autou egeneto oude en o gegonen
and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE 
Here👆 THERE IS NO DIA”

HIM 👉 MAKE REFERENCE TO THE SON OF GOD

Proclaimer……..Your trip word is the word “through” and “by”   It comes from the Greek word “dia”,  which carries a completely different sense  then the English words do, you see it as meaning thats how the world and everythibg was actually created by,  but the Greek word “Dia” carries a difference sense, it carries the idea,  of the “reason fo…[Read more]

Amen Proclaimer,

I fully agree with what you wrote above.