Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
. In English, the word prototype is taken from the Greek,
Would you mind showing your source for that statement?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Danny, you didn’t respond to my last post to you. In fact you have done that several times in other topics as far as I recall. If you consider what I wrote, it could help you understand things a bit better.
carmel replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi Proclaimer,
You: Not sure which is best. While revelation from God is the best,
it is open to controversy.
ME: That’s why I said:
FORGET SCRIPTURE!
I also said:
IN OUR PHYSICAL TERMS PLEASE!
Maybe I wasn’t that clear!
So I’ll be more specifically clear:
I know nothing regarding colours, and a person, tells me that if I mix blue paint…[Read more]
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
I don’t have an answer to that issue.
So what? That doesn’t mean that the flat Earth model is wrong.
There are answers for everything.
I just don’t have it on this one.
What do you do if you don’t understand a Bible verse?
Throw the whole Bible away? Of course not.
Anyway, it has already been proven that our Earth is not a globe.
So, I return…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
LU…….Jesus said (not me)…….“call no man on earth your Father, for “ONE” is “your” Father who is in heave`n”. So LU, if Jesus told me that i have only “ONE” father, who is in heaven, what would make him any different then me, Seening we both have the same father?
Again the true question here is , do you people, “truly” believ…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
YOUR FAMILY TREE
The family tree of Confucius has been maintained for more than 2,500 years and is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest existing family tree. Genealogy is one of the fastest-growing hobbies in North America. More and more people are fascinated in tracing their…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
Even a child knows that the child is the same type as their father,
I’m not disagreeing with that. If he was born from God he should by all accounts have his nature. That would make him divine also.
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
…therefore the only son would not be the prototype.
Not so. In Greek, the word for firstborn is protótokos which is where we get our word ‘prototype’. In English, the word prototype is taken from the Greek, prototokos. It means the first or the basis for a new design.
Regardless, God was not born. The Son was born from God. He came from God.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
Even a child knows that the child is the same type as their father, therefore the only son would not be the prototype. The father would be the prototype of his only begotten son who would not have any siblings of the same type of both he and his father since he is an only begotten.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 6 months ago
Not sure which is best. While revelation from God is the best, it is open to controversy. Sometimes people say they get revelations from God when they are no such thing. Science is another way. Testing something continuously to see if it is always true. Of course, science is only good for physical things. Common sense is also another way to…[Read more]
Admin replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
Not disagreeing with that.
He is the father because he has produced offspring.
But he has and always be God.
And Jesus is his Son.
First son. The prototype.
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
Even a child knows that with every father, there is a son or daughter that “made him a father”. No one becomes a father independently of their offspring.
Lightenup started the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Shall we examine what scripture and reasoning says about whether the Father is:
independent from the Son
or
interdependent with the Son
in order to be the one true God.
I hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.
As I understand it…if…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
Understanding God is not for the intellectual, but everyone. A child can believe in the one true God. People who say otherwise have to resort to mental gymnastics and claim they are more intelligent. But the wise of this world are fools.
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 6 months ago
It might be too intellectual for you, not sure. 🙂
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 6 months ago
I ALREADY DID IN THE POST#941611 ADDRESSED TO Jodi and Gene.
This wasn’t aimed at you. It was aimed at anyone who believes that the Word was WITH God.
carmel replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi Proclaimer,
YOU: The Word was WITH God.
Then we are taught that Jesus Christ is with God now, and in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.
Deal with it.
I ALREADY DID IN THE POST#941611 ADDRESSED TO Jodi and Gene.
Nevertheless
Let’s DEAL WITH IT AND BE MORE SPECIFIC FOR THE SAKE OF TRUTH.
You: Something was WITH God before…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 6 months ago
Just specify THE BEST ONE!
FORGET SCRIPTURE!
IN OUR PHYSICAL TERMS PLEASE!
SINCE GOD OPTED TO ENTER THIS WORLD
IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN!
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 6 months ago
There are a number of ways to confirm truth.
But the question is whether you believe scripture or not.
carmel replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi Proclaimer,
You: @carmel
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.
Now this is eternal life:
that they…[Read more]
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