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    Ed J replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago

    13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm,
    which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
    Ezra 7:13 (KJV)

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    THE SABBATH IS THE SEAL OF GOD

    am the Lord your God. Follow my precepts, observe my ordinances, and put them into practice. Keep my Sabbaths holy, and let them be a sign between me and you, that it may be known that I am the LORD your God. (Ezekiel 20.19-20)

    The Sabbath was granted to all mankind to…[Read more]

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    If the universe had no beginning, then for many, there is no need to consider the cause of the universe. Thus, they could ignore God or a creator. Hawking, a renown atheist, preferred that there was no

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    Berean replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago

    Praise the Lord GOD for WHAT HE TRULY IS.🙏

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    Proclaimer…….Love does not require a, ” FREE WILL,”,

    If uou cannot choose freely to love or reject God, then there is no such thing as love. Instead there is only God directing everything and just misfortune if God decides that you cannot love him.

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    Amen Berean.

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    Berean replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago

     

     

    If Adam and Eve had been created as robots that we control, they would not have disobeyed God. But they were created IN THE IMAGE OF GOD, which suggests that God has free will and therefore CONSTANTLY MAKES CHOICES.
    PART OF THE PURPOSE OF GOD’S PLAN OF SALVATION IN CHRIST AND TO SET MANKIND FREE FROM SIN. BY CHOOSING TO LEARN TO LOVE JUSTICE…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer…….Lovedoes not require  FREE WILL,  God the Father didn’t tell Adam it’s ok if you want to , to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil   because of some kind of so-called free sill “love”,     fact is He “commanded” them not to eat of it.   They chose to “break” his “comandment” to them.  EVE chose to out ofbeing dec…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    I am not at all surprised that you remain SILENT and I don’t blame you!

    HUMBLY SPEAKING,

    AFTER ALL, YOU ARE DISCUSSING THESE THINGS WITH

    THE HOLY GHOST IN ME!

    1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand,

    that no man, speaking by the Spirit of God, saith Anathema to Jesus.

    And no man can say the Lord Jesus, but by the…[Read more]

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    This is how some early apostles / teachers put it. See if you can see the common theme they teach regarding the differences between God and the Son of God.

    Justin Martyr (ca. 150 A.D) – First Apology

    And when we say also that the Word, who is the firstborn of God, was brought forth without sexual union, and that he, Jesus Christ, our Teacher,…[Read more]

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    Hi Proclaimer,

    You: But someone had to be the first to be with God.

    Me: Now, YES, who is THIS SOMEONE THOUGH?

    DEFINITELY AD INTRA , within the deity, AND NOT AD EXTRA outside the deity/creation, OR ELSE,
    GOD COULD IN NO WAY BE OUR SAVIOUR AT ALL!
    AS SIMPLE AS THAT,

    SINCE HE HAD TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WITH HIM AND BE INSEPARABLE!

    BEFORE THE …[Read more]

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    There is God and there is creation. The beginning is creation. Before the cosmos, there was God and the Word that was with him. But God is supreme. Someone had to be first. And the first would rightly be called the Son of God.

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    Hi Jodi and Gene,

    Continue from my last post.

    You: He established before the world was, even the man Jesus of Nazareth shedding his blood to pay for our sins was determined by our God and Father from the beginning.

    Me: Correction, No not from the beginning but BEFORE THE BEGINNING,

    AS GOD IN ALL HIS TASKS AD INTRA, HAS NO BEGINNING Jodi,[Read more]

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    God is love, and since He is love, He gave the first couple the free will or power to choose, to be dependent or independent with respect to God…

    There were two trees in the garden. They represented choice. At that time, God instructed man to eat from one tree. Man disobeyed.

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    I would vote for a person that declared that. As long as he wasn’t just saying it for the votes. I imagine that many would not vote for him for saying that though. so most likely he means it.

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    Free will allows us to crucify our own choices in favour of God’s choices.

    “Not MY Will, but YOURS”.

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    Berean replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago

    Even if our will is placed on the side of God in Christ, it does not mean that we do not/no longer have free choice, because “not me but Christ” is a spiritual process….through which God works in us to make us ONE IN CHRIST AS CHRIST IS ONE WITH THE FATHER.
    WITHOUT FREE WILL MAN WOULD NOT EVEN NEED TO GIVE UP HIMSELF, BEING A ROBOT…

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    To all…….We must “ALL” put our wills to death, exactly like Jesus did  or we simply will not be in the kingdom of God.  We must all “overcome” our own wills, even as Jesus overcame his own, will. 

    The way Jesus did it is the “exact” way we must also, by puttingour wills to death to.  Or haven’t you people ever read what Jesus said (not me),  …[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago

    God is love, and since He is love, He gave the first couple the free will or power to choose, to be dependent or independent with respect to God… But it cost God an infinite price: the gift of His ONLY SON and the gift of His Son was “at the risk of eternal perdition” (for the Son) For the Son, it was not won in advance because it was necessary…[Read more]

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    Admin replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago

    Free will is like giving away sovereignty. When this happens, you have self-rule and the giver takes a risk because the choices that the new entity makes may not necessarily line up with the will of the one who gave the free will or self-rule in the first place.

    But as the saying goes, “if you love something, set it free”.

    God gave us the abi…[Read more]

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