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    Hi Gene,

    You:  “for by “GRACE”,  you being  saved, and that not of yourselves, (through the works of law),  it is a Gift from God, because the Law (forced compliance), couldn’t save anyone because of the weakness of the flesh,  but the Grace of God, working through the “holy spirit” (anointing) given us, does,  save us, because the Spirit of God…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    works of the law means legalism, that is, seeking to be justified by obedience to the law.
    But this is impossible so that no one boasts. Moreover, no one has perfectly met the requirements of the law (except Christ Jesus). All have sinned and come short of the gory of God.
    We are justified by grace, through faith that works by love, and not…[Read more]

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    Berean……Paul said (not me) …..“by the works of “law”, shall no flesh be “JUSTIFIED”  before God.” ,  do you understand what he meant by that?  Please explain it to us , if you can.  The answer is understanding what is meant by the term,  “works of law” , can you explainit to us? 

    Gen 26:5…..The word “law” there is a mistran…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    DOES THE APOSTLE PAUL TEACH THAT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS DID NOT EXIST UNTIL SINAI?

    Some teach that the phrase “until the law” here means that the law did not exist between Adam and the time of Moses. But the balance of the text, coupled with Romans 4:15, proves just the opposite: “Because the law bring…[Read more]

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    Miia replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 6 months ago

    haha this topic has gone a bit off topic! All good.

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    Miia replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 6 months ago

    Have a great 2023!

    Peace, LU

    Same to you LU 🙂

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    carmel replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 6 months ago

    Hi Carmel,

    I believe that Jesus was born of Mary even though He pre-existed as one born of God before creation. I believe that Jesus was born in the flesh and given to us.

    Me: Jesus, is both Son of God and Son of man!

    As Son of God, Jesus was born of Mary, but

    AS A SPIRITUAL LUMINOUS CHILD! 

    Luke 1:And the angel answering, said to her:

    The…[Read more]

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    Hi LU

    hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.

    Do you agree Berean? 

    Me

    The Father had needed, needs the Son for all things and so yes, HE IS (as the one true God) INTERDEPENDENT ON THE SON ,BECAUSE HE IS A JUST AND GOOD GOD.

     

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    Hi Berean,

    Thank you for your answer. Please answer this now that you have had more time to think about it:

    I hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.

    Do you agree Berean?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 6 months ago

    You’re welcome Miia.

    Have a great 2023!

    Peace, LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 6 months ago

    Hi Carmel,

    I believe that Jesus was born of Mary even though He pre-existed as one born of God before creation. I believe that Jesus was born in the flesh and given to us.

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    Miia replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 6 months ago

    Thank you Lightenup, Gene and all… Peace, love and blessings.

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    Paul said   (not me) …….. “that you may be blameless and harmless, the Sons of GOD, without rebuck, in the mudest of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom “YOU” SHINE AS “LIGHTS” IN THE WORLD; 

    And again James says (not me)…… “every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes from the FATHER OF “LIGHTS”,  with whom is no…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 6 months ago

    Hi Lu,

    You: carmel,

    You said:

    WHY, may I ask:

    unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?

    WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?

     
    It’s both.
    Me, Lu I don’t know what you meant by BOTH.

    Read what I said:

    But again, the fact that it says “A CHILD….” is not just a reference to Jesus.

    IT IS ALSO A REFERENCE TO HIS MOTHER MARY!

    SHE WAS BORN FIRST. ‘AND THROUGH HER[Read more]

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    LU……I realize what you and Carmel say,  but i would rather believe what our actual scriptures say, and this is what they say (not me)……Gen 1:27…..”so God created “MAN”  in his “OWN” IMAGE , in the “IMAGE” of God  created “he” him; male and female created he them”.

    Ibelieve there are seven Spirits of God,  with those seven Spirits of his…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    FAR FROM HOME 

    Most of us are familiar with the enslavement of Africans in the United States, but the enslavement of Native Americans is a little known part of history. For many years the Southern colonies carried out slave trade among Native American tribes, shipping tens of thousands of people far from…[Read more]

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    Hi LU

    You: Amen to that, the Son also has the title of Yahweh our Righteousness and the God who will inherit all nations. Do you agree? 

    Me:

    Yes YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THE GOD WHO INHERIT ALL NATIONS….under the authority of the Father.

    1 Corinthians 15:22-28
    For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all shall live again.
    But each in his…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    You: LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD…….,

    ACCORDING TO YOU,  he meant to say,  “US” the onLy true “GOD’S”.  

    Me: Gene the above is only your corrupted carnal-minded understanding.

    GOD HAS THE POWER TO BYLOCATE AND MULTIPLY HIMSELF AS MUCH AS HE P…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    God is united to His Son, they do the God stuff together. The Father sees Him and His Son as one God in the fullest sense who is both God of gods and Lord of lords named Yahweh. Two different persons acting as one, interdependently to do the God stuff. They are God alone, no one besides them.

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    Proclaimer,

    You said:

    But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out.

    We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our existence is tied up in T…

    [Read more]

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