carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi Gene,
Me: Cont.
Now we come to your verse:
You: “this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD…….,
NOW, THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE…..
In the above, Jesus, REFERRING definitely TO HIMSELF, TO HIS SPIRIT AS
“ETERNAL LIFE” and THE SOURCE of the entire PHYSICAL CREATION, John 6:27, and confirmed and said
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..
“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD…….,
Cont. from the previous post!
John17:1 These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Sometimes I wonder if you are serious dannyd and are trolling me instead. I’ll take it that you are being serious.
Explain this danny. If you are in the sea, the horizon is about one mile away. If you are standing on the shore, it is about 3 miles away. This wouldn’t happen if the earth was flat. Because it is a globe, when you are standing up,…[Read more]
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Look at the picture again.
Planes don’t fly that way, except the one on the top.
You need to stop believing in stupid things!GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer……..Yes he is the first “BORN”. Of or FROM ALL CREATION. question? What does “first”, “born” , mean to you? Jesus is the first, born from all of, creation to be born in to the Kingdom of God, “you must be born again” Jesus said remember? By saying he was first (born) is not the same as saying he was first created now is it? In…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
God the Father is “against” all who say Jesus “preexisted” his birth on this earth, as well as all who preach and worship him as their GOD. Jesus will out of his own mouth reject them at his return just as 2ths2, shows.
Incorrect. God isn’t against Jesus Christ for example who said:
I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Adam is the first son that human sons are modeled after.
Correct.
But some humans will be modelled after the final Adam.
So the first Adam is not the only prototype. He is for some however.
Flesh first then Spirit.
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi Danny.
The answer is well known.
Up and down is drawn from the centre of the earth. There is no universal up as you assume. It’s quite easy to prove.
See if there are any basic science classes you can do where you live.
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Gene
You
God the Father is “against” all who say Jesus “preexisted” his birth on this earth, …..
Me
BIG LIE Gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
To all…….What Jesus is, is the finish product of what God the Father started with Adam and Eve. Jesus is what God had in mind from the very beginning of his creation of all mankind. Jesus is God the Fathers word (of prophesy) that came into being , as a flesh and blood human being, when he was born on this earth. He was Baptized and rec…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
WHY DID JOHN THE BAPTIST SAY THAT HE WAS NOT ELIJAH WHEN JESUS SAID THAT HE WAS?
I once read about a brilliant boy diagnosed with autism who has an IQ higher than Einstein had. Some have even called him “the new Einstein.” At only 14 years old, he was already working on a master’s degree in quantum phy…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Yes, Adam was / is a prototype too.
I guess all species had a prototype.But, all in Adam die, all in Christ shall live.
If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer,
You asked:
So who is the first type then? The first Son?
Adam is the first son that human sons are modeled after.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can you trust Big Tech? in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
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Proclaimer replied to the topic Natural or manufactured? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 3 years, 6 months ago
Documents Reveal Secret Twitter Portal used by US Government for Censoring
Proclaimer replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
I disagree that the Son is a prototype of any other type of sons. No other sons are just like him. A prototype would imply others of the same type but the Son is an only son of his type, modeled after His Father. The Son was not created, nor born again, both which bring a sort of sonship that the Son does not share.
Of course you disagree…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out.
LU: That sounds like the Father is not independent of the Son but rather they are both i…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Carmel……Truth is you simply don’t believe God , nor what he says , (not me) ……YOU SHALL HAVE “NO” , “OTHER” GOD BESIDES ME”, NOR SHALL YOU MAKE “ANY” “IMAGE OF ME IN HEAVEN OR EARTH”…… COMMANDMENT number 1
How bold you are how breave you speek, in defiance of what our God and Jesus Christ “plainly” said. well we wilall see how…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 6 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
APPLE OF YOUR EYE
The human eye is one of the most fascinating and complex organs of the body. It is one of the many features of creation that has baffled evolutionists because of the intricate and interdependent way in which it functions. The dark hole in the middle of our eye is called the pupil. It…[Read more]
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