• Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    LU……it was a “prophisied” event that was “going” to take place,  The Book of Hebrews 1:15 , proves it , as i posted to CARMEL above , just read and study it, there you have your answers,   it’s both in the old Testement and the New as many things in scriptures  are.

    Peace and love to you and yours LU……….gene

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    LU……it was a “prophisied” event that was “going” to take place,  The Book of Hebrews 1:15 , proves it , as i posted to CARMEL above , just read and study it, there you have your answers,   it’s both in the old Testement and the New as many things in scriptures  are.

    Peace and love to you and yours LU……….gene

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    Carmel……makes no difference who that Angel or,  “messenger” was, he was still speaking the words of God, not his own words,   as your trying to portray .  Even the Angel at the Burning bush with Moses  was speaking God the Fathers words, not his own words.  Show me any scripture that say Angels are God’s,  just one Carmel,  none , but scriptu…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    HOW CAN THE LORD SAY, “I NEVER KNEW YOU” WHEN HE KNOWS EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING?

    In these verses, God is referring to knowing someone as a personal friend. We get to know Him as a friend when we talk with Him daily, read His words, follow Him gladly, and freely share with Him our joys and sorrows as wit…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    Read this scripture please:

    Judges 2:1And an angel of the Lord went up from Galgal to the place of weepers, and said:

    I made you go out of Egypt, and have brought you into the land for which I swore to your fathers:
    and I promised that I would not make void my covenant with you forever:

    Now Answer please: 

    WHO IS THIS ANGEL OF THE L…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Gene (posted a third time without your reply, btw.),

    Who is speaking in this passage:

    7I will proclaim the decree

    spoken to Me by the LORD:

    “You are My Son;

    today I have become Your Father.

     

    Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?

    Please answer both of those questions Gene.

    Blessings, LU

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Gene

    Just produce “one” scripture that says,  “Jesus “pre-existed” as a live being before he existed on this earth”  

    Me

    The Bible Say by the Mouthe OF Jesus :

    Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
    Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going t…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    CARMEL…….Just produce “one” scripture that says,  “Jesus “pre-existed” as a live being before he existed on this earth” , or even more simple,  He was alive before he was born on this earth,  or any activity recorded in scriptures showing,  i mean clear activity, not scriptures you have to add , your own thoughts to try to force the text to sa…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    salut à tous ☀️

     

    Voici la dévotion quotidienne

    CONCENTRER

    Chaque jour, vous êtes bombardé de milliards de bits d’entrées sensorielles, dont vous ignorez la plupart. Si vous essayiez de vous concentrer sur chaque son, bruit, lumière, image, mot, odeur et conversation qui vous arrivait, vous deviendriez fou. Vous avez été créé avec un système d…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    First and foremost read please again:

    IN MY POSTS Nos. #941923, 4, and 5

    I elaborated  regarding John17:1-3 AND FOR A REASON ONLY YOU KNOW,

    you simply IGNORED THEM, NOW IN THOSE POSTS I ASKED BOTH YOU AND JODI,

    WHERE WAS SATAN ON JESUS’DEATH? OR MORE PRECISELY

    WHAT HAPPENED TO SATAN ON JESUS’DEATH ON THE CROSS?

     

    WILL YOU  REMAI…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    @dannyd

    You are in no position to tell anyone the world is flat when yuo have zero evidence, no scientific understanding and no bible verse to support your belief.

    You have nothing to support your teaching

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Berean replied to the topic New World Order in the forum Prophecy 3 years, 4 months ago

    And All the World’s Ambassadors Wondered After the Beast

    On January 9, 2023, Pope Francis met with the ambassadors of the 183 sovereign nations, including the United States, with which the Vatican maintains diplomatic relations. The ambassadors, also known as the diplomatic corps, gathered at the Vatican to drink the wine of Babylon and to hear…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi LU

    Do you agree that there are two persons who existed before creation that are interdependent to each other, one who remained God in nature and another who began in the same nature as the other but then also took on human nature? In other words, One of the two persons before creation remained purely God natured and the other of the two…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Here is the Daily Devotional
    WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT SOME SINS LEAD TO DEATH AND OTHERS DON’T?
    All sin leads to death (Romans 6:23). And since “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23), we are all doomed to eternal death. Yet Jesus provided a way out by offering His perfect life in exchange for our sinful lives.

    Part of re…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    @dannyd

    Reality should bother you danny.

    fe2

    Further, I am still waiting for your no1 flat earth verse in the bible. I would love to read it.

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Proclaimer:

    You said:

    If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?

    The second Adam was a life giving spirit. Is there another person that is a life giving spirit modeled after the second Adam? I don’t know of any.

    Jesus is the firstborn from the dead and there are many to follow that act of being begotten from…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Hi Berean,

    You said:

    The Father had needed, needs the Son for all things and so yes, HE IS (as the one true God) INTERDEPENDENT ON THE SON ,BECAUSE HE IS A JUST AND GOOD GOD.

    Do you agree that there are two persons who existed before creation that are interdependent to each other, one who remained God in nature and another who began in the same…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Proclaimer,

    You quoted this:

    Proclaimer: But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out. We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our e…

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  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Gene (posted a second time),

    Who is speaking in this passage:

    7I will proclaim the decree

    spoken to Me by the LORD:

    “You are My Son;

    today I have become Your Father.

     

    Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?

    Please answer both of those questions Gene.

    Blessings, LU

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Gene,

    You: Carmel…….You are one screwed up cookie, brother,  are you a Johovah wittness, they also believe that Jesus was a preexisting angel like you?

    Me: Read and tell me what does the scripture hereunder say?

     

    Galatians 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected;
    but received me as an angel of God, even…[Read more]

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