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    @ Berean,

    “The real “nuts and bolts” of this entire conversation comes down to whether or not we understand scripture from a Jewish or a Nicean perspective.”

    Which perspective are you using to understand scripture? The Adventists “belief” page mimics the Nicean Creed, case and point. Then to use a blanket statement of those who don’t believe the…[Read more]

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    @desiretruth

    I will challenge you or anyone to scripturally prove Christ preexistence in the old testament. Why do you believe what you believe? Take a stand.

     

    No one has ever proven
    that Christ did not pre-exist.
    The proofs that he pre-existed exist, but they are denied purely and simply. And that is the work of the Enemy of Souls.

    🙏

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    Jodi replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago

    Good Morning All,

    We are not robots nor puppets, we are given the freedom to make our own choices, but choices are made through what has influenced us, of which there is much therein that we did not have control over or say in. 

    We also are NOT self-righteous, just as Jesus said, “only God is good”, the fruit of His Spirit is in all good…[Read more]

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    YOU SAID,  NOT ME…………..13 And lead us not into temptation.
    But deliver us from evil. Amen.

    Gene, literally speaking, (JESUS SAID NOT ME)

    GOD LEADS US INTO TEMPTATION!

    NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU MAKE OF THE ABOVE WORDS BY JESUS?

    I AM WAITING, WHO KNOWS?

    I responded that interruption was wrong,  why? ,  because James said God tempts no man,  and I eve…[Read more]

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    @ Proclaimer,

    This entire conversation is a circle, it’s the same argument for the last 20 years. One side pitted against the other and both sides having the mindset of “I’m right and your wrong.” Always repeating the same thing. Either Christ preexisted or he didn’t; one belief is wrong and the other correct, both can’t be right.

    The real “nuts…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

     

    DOUG BATCHELOR THE RICHEST CAVEMAN, PART 2 

    Despite the stereotype, many burglaries actually occur during broad daylight. Just ask Doug Batchelor, who spent his time in Boston, ironically, as a thief during the day and a security guard at night.

    He had a fake driver’s license; he had rented an ap…[Read more]

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    Another prominent flat earther admits he was wrong
    Not looking too good for those few who are still hanging onto the lie.

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    Proclaimer. ……by separation Jesus from the rest of humanity, you are creating another inanity different from us.

    Still making this false claim. If I believe that he existed in the form of God  emptying himself of all advantage and coming in the flesh bthen living as a baby like us and growing into an adult like us  then how is it exactly that…[Read more]

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    Like Mike, you have been debunked so much that most people would have at least questioned their beliefs by now. But not yourself and Mike. Are you aware that the Flat Earth movement has sunk. I guess many adherents just realised after a while how foolish a belief it was.

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    I notice that you have not posted a video of you bringing back the sun. What is the delay?

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    While Newton’s membership was largely intellectual, his scientific achievements and contributions were not directly related to his membership in the organization. In fact, he is widely considered to be one of the most important figures in the history of Christian thought. He wrote extensively on theological topics, including a treatise on the…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago

    Hi Gene,

    You: But , YOU SAID , IT WAS God who tempts us.   Proven wrong again Carmel !

    Me: WHERE IN MY POST DID I EVER SAY OR EVEN MEANT THAT PLEASE?

    Temptations are incessant, and they are PERMITTED by God,

    AS IN THE CASE OF JOB,

    to justify that we are God’s children in Christ and SPIRITUALLY destroy the devil’s work THAT COMES FROM THE…[Read more]

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    @proclaimer

    The existing laws of density and buoyancy perfectly explained the physics of falling objects long before knighted Freemason “Sir” Isaac Newton bestowed his theory of “gravity” upon the world.

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    Jodi replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago

    Hi Proclaimer,

    Let’s establish definitions!

    Free will– the ability or discretion to choose; free choice. A person’s natural inclination; unforced choice.

    So in other words we are free to use our own will to make our own choices, do you agree?

    So now let’s talk about our own wills, the will of any individual.

    A person’s own will is established…[Read more]

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    Carmel……. you’re a real snake in a bier patch,  instead of all your sneaking and dodging around the subject I was addressing , and dealing with , you very cleverly shifted away from the scripture that say plainly , that “GOD TEMPTS “NO” MAN,  James 1:13-14,   “Let no man say when he is tempted , I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted w…[Read more]

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    Hi all

    The battle of the bibles

    Revelation 13:18
    “Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man; and the
    number is Six hundred three score and six”.
    It has been a source of strength among Waldenses and other Christians who have been persecuted by
    the Church of Rome, and later among early…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    <span style=”color: #ff9900;”>DOUG BATCHELOR THE RICHEST CAVEMAN, PART 1 </span>

    What kind of a childhood do you think the son of an aviation magnate and a “show biz” maven had? If you think it was a happy one, you couldn’t be more wrong.

    Doug Batchelor grew up with a millionaire for a father and a film c…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago

    HI Gene,

    Carmel…….The correct way that scripture should be written, and understood is this way,  “and let us not be lead into temptation, but deliver us from the evil”. Why, because other scripture says,  “GOD TEMPTS “NO” MAN.”    IF  you were of the truth you would have known that.  

    I REALIZE YOUR MIND MAYBE CAN’T UNDERSTAND THAT,  BUT N…[Read more]

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    Look what happens when you rotate the photo.

    Of course, the satelite or camera could also rotate to get this shot.

    Amazing that such basic realities need to be explained.

    globe

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