The sun is too far away to see on a flat earth argument
Status: Debunked

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel…….Jesus said (not me)…….“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”

The above confirms that YOU ARE SIMPLY BLIND!

JESUS CONFIRMED AND SAID:

“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”

Me:  Gene, WHY DOES THE FATHER DRAW MEN TO JESUS?

Read:

John14:6 Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and…[Read more]

@ Jodi

In fact Jodi, you are denying the mystery of God and the Father and Christ.

You say Christ has nothing to do with being God (Theos) as in John 1:1)

You have great difficulty in conceiving that the equal of GOD (Phil.2:6) was MADE FLESH….(John1:1)

And yet …. I tell you: it’s THE TRUTH, I’m not lying. God the Father is my witness, as…[Read more]

@ Jodi

When I say ‘just a man’, there is nothing pejorative about it.
I REPEAT: THERE IS NOTHING PEJORATIVE.

Hi Desire Truth,

Wow, you really nailed something in your last post. Thank you!

When debating on this forum to test and prove all things to then see people just shut down when given certain scriptures shows a great deal of weakness with their doctrine.

Hi Berean,

You said, “just a man”.

This truly exposes your mindset of complete denial of profound meaningful scriptures.

According to you, are we to believe that the idea of Jesus ONLY existing as a human being would then strip him of all his glory??

Such is NOT AT ALL what God’s word gives us.

Isaiah 11: 1 And there shall come forth a rod…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

COUNT NIKOLAUS LUDWIG VON ZINZENDORF ANOTHER “RICH YOUNG RULER”

Nikolaus Ludwig von Zinzendorf grew up in a Christian home, and thus it’s difficult to pinpoint the moment when this young nobleman—a far different “rich young ruler” than the one found in Scripture—received Christ as his Savior. But t…[Read more]

@dannyd

Please explain this phenomenon if the world we live on is a flat disc.
You can’t. This means your teaching and belief is fake.
At this point all you can do is either repent or explain how this matches reality.
For the record, the globe model fits this observation.

Hi Jodi,

You: If Jesus was without sin, then he wouldn’t need to be baptized#943022

Me: Jodi, read the scripture hereunder, it didn’t confirm

THAT JESUS WAS BORN OF GOD’S SPIRIT?

It didn’t also confirm that Jesus BORN OF GOD’S SPIRIT WAS DEFINITELY

WITHOUT THE LEAST STAIN OF SIN?

Luke 2: 49And he said to them: How is it that you sought m…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Refusing to apply scripture directly where God intended it to be applied to.

Me: Now, Jodi, TO ACHIEVE what you’re suggesting, what kind of wisdom, or knowledge, would you refer to?

Also, just to keep you in mind of the truth,

WE ARE DISCUSSING GOD’S GENERAL TASK ON EARTH AS A HUMAN IN JESUS,

SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING…[Read more]

@ Berean,

Your statement is the main reason this debate has been raging for the last 20 years; no one wants to verify what they have been told or taught to be truth is actually the truth. Doctrine has superseded God’s words and is why the church isn’t unified, why the church is collapsing, and why sin is running rampant within its walls. Truth…[Read more]

@ Jodi

No need to keep trying to convince me that Jesus is just a man.
Don’t waste your time with this, IT’S USELESS.

Hi Berean,

YOU:

The point of dispute is not there, it is on the fact that you believe in a Christ who is not NOT THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS….

“All things were made by him; and  without him was not any thing made that was made.”

This is the subject of the thread

ANY OTHER SAVIOR IS “OUTLAW”

ME:

The point of dispute is certainly there Bere…[Read more]

Carmel…….Jesus said (not me)…….“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”   GOD the FATHER, Is my and Jesus’ FIRST LOVE,  Jesus, myself and all other things are our, “second love” .

remember what Jesus told the person who ask what is the greatest commandment ?,  …..“you shall “LOVE” the Lord you GOD , with “ALL” YOU HEART , wit…[Read more]

Carmel…….Jesus said (not me)…….“no man CAN COME UNTO ME,  except the Father “DRAW”, him.”   GOD the FATHER, Is my and Jesus’ FIRST LOVE,  Jesus, myself and all other things are our, “second love” .

remember what Jesus told the person who ask what is the greatest commandment ?,  …..“you shall “LOVE” the Lord you GOD , with “ALL” YOU HEART , wit…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional
HERE IS THE LAMB OF GOD”
Here is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. (John 1:29)

By nature, John had the weaknesses and faults common to all human beings. But in contact with divine love, he had changed. When, after the beginning of the ministry of Jesus, the disciples of John came to c…[Read more]

@ Carmel,

This is patently false and makes absolutely zero sense. You are quoting a verse before Christ was baptized, before beginning of his ministry, and equating Christ to “our first love”??!!?

One question for you, what is the first and greatest commandment? Also, read I John 4:7-21; where does love come from?

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel……..My “first love” ,  is not Jesus,  but God the Father , 

John3:28 You yourselves do bear me witness, that I said, I am not Christ, but that I am sent before him.
29He that hath the bride, is the bridegroom:…..
 

Gene, WE ARE THE BRIDE!

JESUS IS THE BRIDEGROOM NOT THE FATHER!
OUR FIRST LOVE  AS THE BRIDE IS JESUS![Read more]

Therefore hear the words of God of Father saying,  “I am against you”, why?,   because you have moved the first love for me and given it to Jesus.  Unless you repent you will and are rejected by “GOD THE FATHER”.

Me

It’s impossible to love God without loving Christ SO MUCH, THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WHO WAS MADE FLESH FOR US.
John 1:…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

So many things to lay out.

We are promised to be heirs of God, heirs of righteousness, to be made perfect. We are promised to receive the Spirit to the cause that we walk in all of God’s ways. 

The fruit of the Spirit is in ALL goodness, righteousness and truth and within we see many other fruits including, “love, joy, peace,…[Read more]