t8,

None of disagrees that Jesus was born a normal man.

Any Jew is born holy. (Deuteronomy 7:6 and Exodus 22:31)

They are normal humans.

You too are part of the “Ordinary Jesus Brigade”.

I pity you. Cursed are those who trust in flesh.

I trust Jesus for my salvation, but to you, Nick, and Gene, you would be trusting in flesh which is cursed.

Hi t8,

God’s strength shows up best in weak vessels.

But you want to make an infant a Lord and anointed from birth.

Despite the lack of evidence of any such thing happening to him before birth or any manifestations before age 30.

This is a joke Nick. Clearly scripture testifies including the words of a holy angel who is higher than you being a…[Read more]

Hi Ed,

Only problem is that scripture says that Jesus was a man.

But it also says that Jesus was the Christ, the Lord, and the son of God.

He was born as such.

The Word that was with God became flesh. That holy child was called Jesus. But he existed before that as the Word of God.

And yes all things at some point come from God, even Christ.

Terr.

Take a look at the forum this is posted in. The clue is in the title.

I wouldn’t put a pet mouse among cats or a child among pedophiles. Likewise I would not put a Christian or Jewish child among those who follow the Koran to the letter.

Christians are almost extinct in large swathes of the Middle East. There is a reason for that.

“And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of…[Read more]

I would love the opportunity to live in an Islamic country, as it would give me a chance to share with them what I know. And if you love what you believe in then nothing would hold you back.

Same, but I would not approve of Islam, whereas I think you are saying it has merit.

T8…..I AM NOT FLIP FLOPING, BOTTON LINE IS, Jesus was referencing GOD THE FATHER, AS THE ROCK, WHICH IS THE POWER, HE WOULD BUILD THE CHURCH BY. ROCK, POWER, ALL REFERENCE ONE GOD. Your effort to muddy the waters of truth changes nothing.

So hearing God is not that rock then?

Jesus Christ is called the true God and eternal life in 1 John 5:20.
So, both the Father AND the Son are the true God.

@DannyD

Read 1 John 5:20 again Danny.

You will see that the true God being referred to has a son.

If that is Jesus, then tell me who Jesus son is?

A better explanation to that verse is…[Read more]

Hi Ed,
No I suggest you find the spiritual understanding of it by comparing other verses.
The Word was God.

Let me interpret these words.

“No I suggest you find Nick’s understanding of it by comparing other verses.
The Word was God.”

There is a problem here though.

Nick has over the years changed his stance substantially. While that is not a…[Read more]

Hi Ed,
No I suggest you find the spiritual understanding of it by comparing other verses.
The Word was God.

Let me interpret these words.

“No I suggest you find Nick’s understanding of it by comparing other verses.
The Word was God.”

There is a problem here though.

Nick has over the years changed his stance substantially. While that is not a…[Read more]

Hi Ed,
No I suggest you find the spiritual understanding of it by comparing other verses.
The Word was God.

Let me interpret these words.

“No I suggest you find Nick’s understanding of it by comparing other verses.
The Word was God.”

There is a problem here though.

Nick has over the years changed his stance substantially. While that is not a…[Read more]

@DannyD

@all!! Yesterday, I prayed to the Father AND the Son for salvation and truth. I feel that there is something wrong. I have a problem to believe that God the Father was at one time not the Father. For there cannot be a Father without a Son. Do you agree? Peace! Danny

Scripture says that Jesus is in the glory that he had with the Father…[Read more]

@DannyD

@all!! Yesterday, I prayed to the Father AND the Son for salvation and truth. I feel that there is something wrong. I have a problem to believe that God the Father was at one time not the Father. For there cannot be a Father without a Son. Do you agree? Peace! Danny

Scripture says that Jesus is in the glory that he had with the Father…[Read more]

Jesus was a normal man who was born of Mary.

Nick, the only thing in this statement that is true is Jesus was born a man.

But there is error. He was not born normal.

He was born holy;
He was born the son of God;
He was born the messiah;
He was born the Lord.

Curious, I take it you think you are a normal man, yet were you born any of these…[Read more]

Hi t8,
You weave a fanciful web.
The Spirit of Christ was there but not the infant child.

Nick, you are either lacking in understanding or being disingenuous, i.e., bearing false witness in this case.

I have never said that an infant child existed as Jesus before he became an infant child. Honestly, where do you get such ideas? lol.

You need to…[Read more]

Hi t8,
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever.

Was this true in the year 100BC?