What you actually said was the apostles were the light and then their words became the light. Anyone reading that would assume as I did that somehow the best had passed on and now us unfortunate people could not possess that light, but was at least in the word they left. Now you are saying something different, which is more akin to what I believe.…[Read more]

We should understand the truth. Paul is obviously a follower of Jesus Christ. But saying that he is wrong because Jesus said another thing can be resolved in two ways.

Paul is wrong so ignore him.
Both were right. There is no contradiction.

You seem to infer 1).

We should understand the truth. Paul is obviously a follower of Jesus Christ. But saying that he is wrong because Jesus said another thing can be resolved in two ways.

Paul is wrong so ignore him.
Both were right. There is no contradiction.

LU, it doesn’t make any difference what I believe regarding your doctrine. Your view that both the Father and Son are both the Most High God is not true. This is what you believe right?

You are being silly. Paul tells us the reason to pray for kings and those in authority. It is not to save the world as such, but that God’s people can live in peace and I suppose to freely teach and preach the truth.

Jesus did not come here to save this world system, rather to save the people in it. Paul is not telling you to pray that this world…[Read more]

You are being silly. Paul tells us the reason to pray for kings and those in authority. It is not to save the world as such, but that God’s people can live in peace and I suppose to freely teach and preach the truth.

Jesus did not come here to save this world system, rather to save the people in it. Paul is not telling you to pray that this world…[Read more]

You are being silly. Paul tells us the reason to pray for kings and those in authority. It is not to save the world as such, but that God’s people can live in peace and I suppose to freely teach and preach the truth.

Jesus did not come here to save this world, but to take people from this world and put them into the Kingdom of God. Paul is not…[Read more]

Terr, to be clear, all light comes from God. And beings that are one with God will have that light in them and shine it out. That includes Jesus, Apostles, and all who are one with God thereafter and today.

But you still said this which is technically wrong. You should admit it is wrong and say that you have changed your mind, or that you didn’t…[Read more]

Yes the Earth is a grain of sand. But the stars can be used as signs. A bit like me saying that I will leave the country when this tree loses its leaves. The tree has nothing really to do with me, but I am using it as a reference point.

Luke 21:25-26
…’And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth…[Read more]

Yes the Earth is a grain of sand. But the stars can be used as signs. A bit like me saying that when the tree loses its leaves, then I will travel. The tree has nothing really to do with me, but I am using it as a reference point.

Luke 21:25-26
…’And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth d…[Read more]

Terr, you can answer your own question.

Look for where it says ‘ONLY’ 144,000 are redeemed from the Earth. If you cannot find it, then look at where it talks about others who are not of the 144,000 standing before the throne of God.

LU, you have taught that both the Father and the Son make up this one God. That is incorrect.  There is one God the Father and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. And yes, the Father is greater than the son. And God greater than the Lord.

“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and…[Read more]

So you agree now that God made the sun, moon, and stars as signs and seasons?

you see we are not the origin of the light only carriers

I never said that did I. You are detracting from your own teaching that says that the light died with the Apostles and was only present in their words.

Be honest or live a delusion. They are your choices.

no, you did not prove me wrong unless you change the gospels ,(teachings of Christ)

So you are sticking with this being correct, even though it contradicts scripture?

the apostles lived with Jesus and Jesus was the light ,only after he went up,they (apostles ) became the light and when they left it was their message that became the light

Look if…[Read more]

And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

Terr, this verse does not say that only 144,000 are redeemed from the earth. It says that 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth sang a new song that no one else…[Read more]

Yes, because it doesn’t say ONLY anywhere.
The 144,000
4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of…[Read more]

I have ask you if God and his son have changed the gospel call  through which all men are called by faith ?

did God through his scriptures as establish a different access to him beside the blood of his son ? please if yes show it to me I may have overlooked it

This doesn’t relate to the topic. If we are told to pray for people, does that somehow…[Read more]

bravo;so we should pray for Nero,Hitler,caligula ,and the despot in North Korea,Stalin, and all the likes ,

you should really read your scriptures more carefully ,

Of course we should have at the time they were in authority. Prayer changes things. It is a petition to God about something specific. It doesn’t mean that you pray that Hitler would…[Read more]

You seem to take the position of 2

I would say 3, and the explanation is in the two posts above this one.