Let’s see how honest you are Gene.

Does this scripture say that Jesus was born the messiah, yes or no?

Luke 2:11
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

Please answer yes or no. Anything else is from the Evil One. Do we really need to read what the Evil One has to say?

Yes or no?

T8….You need to check out what a MESSIAH is.

For a start, the one who was born in Bethlehem was not just a man made of real flesh, but was also born the Christ and son of God. His Father was the Holy God and his mother a human. Like Adam, he had no earthly father and is sometimes referred to as the second Adam.

But you state that Jesus was not b…[Read more]

Hi T8,

What about just like you?

So you can follow him into his death and resurrection.

Nick, if he was like me, then he believes he was born the messiah.

Jesus is my teacher and I am the pupil. He came in the flesh so that I could inherit divine nature and have a body like his.

He reached down to me and lifted me up. But you think Jesus…[Read more]

Yet some think a man was in heaven prior to his birth?

Strange isn’t it Nick. I wonder why people might think that he had glory with God even before the Cosmos.

Colossians 1:17
He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

John 1:3
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Hebrews 1:1-2
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This is interesting in that the verse DOES NOT claim that had glory WHEN the world was… only BEFORE. Yet another scripture claim CREATED the world and all things within… and then another STATES that it was the FATHER who created everything ‘through’ the Son. Well, if only had glory BEFORE the world was, the question is then: ‘What GLORY did…

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Hi T8,

Indeed the Word was made flesh.

Indeed, Jesus came in the flesh and the Word was made flesh.

Both are true. But did God create all things through two things so to speak?

You are still back here guys. Is progression possible?

Nick has a problem with yes or no to clear and fair questions on this and other subjects.

The day he can answer just yes or no, then I will know when he is serious about discovering truth over pride in any current understanding he holds to now. By the way, he has changed his mind in matters pertaining to the origins of Jesus at least once before,…[Read more]

Q: Who was born in the stable?

A: Jesus.

Scripture says he was born the Christ.

Gene and Nick say he was not born the Christ, so this Jesus was not the Christ according to them.

This is it in a nutshell guys.

The antichrist spirit will deny this one way or another. Even if it is disguised some way which is the kind of device our enemy engages…[Read more]

He was born the Christ. You say he was not the Christ.

We are allowed to differ and at least one of us has to be wrong.

I can’t help but think of the scriptures that describe the antichrist spirit denying that Jesus is the Christ.

You know what I mean right.

Gene,

Explain why this scripture is not saying what it says.

Explain why and how all things were not created through him because surely, this and other verses say it is true.

…he Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,…[Read more]

Gene, it is not one isolated scripture but many. When lots of signs point in the same direction, it is not wise to ignore them. But who can force another man to read the warning sign?

Hi T8,

If you could grasp prophecy you would not see others as enemies.

Nick, I do not speak to you that I do because of my grasp or lack of grasp for prophecy.

No. It is your reluctance to say yes or no and your accusations toward others here saying they are not being led by the Spirit when what you really mean is not believing in your…[Read more]

Yes true miia.

Seems weird. On one hand we have the signs to tell us, and on the other, it comes by surprise,

They key is this verse I feel.

But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.

Who dares oppose this?

to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

In the past God spoke to our…[Read more]

Thanks EdJ.

You speak the truth in this regard.

To reprove using scripture is not abuse.

Unless a man teaches otherwise, he may feel threatened for sure.

I am within my rights to correct using scripture. Further, I am calm. I am pointing out what a bad idea it is to accuse believers of not being led by the Spirit, thus not being the sons of God. Keep it about attacking doctrines, not people. You could be thrown out of here for judging people like that. You should know better IMO. But I have been…[Read more]

Okay guys, let’s practice the KISS theory on this one, ie: “Keep It Simple Stupid”. First up, have any of you ever personally witnessed any earth curvature with your own eyes whatsoever in your lifetime?

No. Never. I have accepted the Heliocentric view based on the scientific evidence presented to me. Yes there is a certain trust given in that,…[Read more]

Hi Miia.

According to the theory, the sun goes under the disk. So it orbits the Earth above and below.

While this explains day and night, it brings in a new complication. The theory rejects Sir Isaac Newton’s theory of gravity and states simply that we do not fall off the Earth because we sit on top of the disk. The seas do not flow over the…[Read more]

Yes please, change the channel. You might want CNN.