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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Think of it like this Nick.
You have say three sixes and scripture is a Royal Flush.
I choose scripture, thus you lose this round right?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Humans have one kind of body, that same body goes from being earthly to spiritual, do you agree?
I agree. But in what capacity the body we have now is the same one at the resurrection is up for debate. First we have to acknowledge that we look through a glass darkly and John said it like this:
what we will be has not yet been made known. But we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi T8,
The one constant in your arguments is that your opinions are irrefutably correct.
How arrogant.
I am not correct, scripture is. I merely believe it and quote it. I didn’t write it, declare it, or invent it. I believe it though and you do not because you oppose this vehemently. You then say you need the Spirit to essentially deny what is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Jesus Christ, without the Jordan anointing, was a pious,
It is a commandment to not bear false witness against thy neighbour. I challenge you to find where I have posted that Jesus was not anointed by the Spirit at Jordan. You cannot do it. Why do you say it then? Maybe because you are trying to detract attention away from yourself who denies…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago
My point about Jesus’s Father and your Father, is that you was born from your Father and your a human. Jesus was born of His Father and He’s a God. God bless.
Yes good point. He partook of our nature through a process which was like our coming into this world, except of course Jesus has more in common with Adam in that sense than us who are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Two opposing opinions being argued here that are both wrong when scripture is used as the test.
@Dig4truth you seem to disagree with this:
“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent,”You see Dig, this truth is eternal life, so it needs to be respected. The Father is the only true…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick doesn’t do yes / no questions because he is knows it requires a level of honesty that would condemn his own teaching. Perhaps Nick could explain his position if somehow the scripture regarding letting your yes be yes does not apply to him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi Dig, you said:
Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus *said to him
Rather than craft a post about this, I poinyvyoubto the following page.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi Anthony, it seems from reading your last post that we agree on a lot of things, although the post was hard to read as it seemed to out of order somewhat.
When I talk about my father in a spiritual sense, I am talking of the Father, not my earthly daddy. So we can be born from above in new birth and become a son of God. Like Jesus too, but of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Good Morning t8,
I am believing in precisely what scripture says. You are changing the direct scriptural truth because you are misunderstanding what heavenly and spiritual means.
A strange answer considering I spoke about scripture and what was said and further agreed with it. I was talking about the different bodies and how there are earthly…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
T8…..by preaching Jesus was born with the anointing spirit, and he was not baptized inorder to recieve it, then that put in the ranks of an anti-anointing, or ANTICHRIST person . What you are saying in effect is Jesus was not a true human being, who would need to be anointed with God’s spirit as we have to be. You also preach he prexisted as som…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago
Anthony, I do agree with some of your last post, but not all.
If Jesus is the son of God, then is the father, the Father of God?
No because the Father is God and the son is OF God.
Likewise, we can be sons too and participate in divine nature. That doesn’t make us God even though we can participate in God’s nature, it makes us sons of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Ha ha. You are trying to wrestle these scriptures away from us and give us your words as replacements. The cheek. Let your yes be yes means that you should be able to answer in this manner regarding appropriate questions because we should be honest. Lawyers know that to avoid an incriminating question, you simply provide lots of detail to hide the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago
Gene, it is clear that if the Father resides in Jesus us via his Spirit and Jesus can be in us too. Further, we can be one with each other in unity of spirit, then is that to be taken that Jesus is a mere shell body for God. Just as Adam was one with his wife, Eve was not a shell that Adam dwelled in and controlled. You need to look into what it…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Jodi, earthly being vs heavenly being is more than physiological differences. It is about the actual body itself. Just as animals have their kind of body and humans have a body, so angels have a body. There are earthly and heavenly bodies. But you seem to want to change this to mean earthly and heavenly minds to keep your original arguments…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
He cannot answer your question EdJ. He dodges that question by answering a different question.
All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
Let’s cut to the chase. Believers believe scripture, so the conclusion to draw is obvious.
Nick clearly fails this test. No amount of excuses will change that fact.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why the United States Is a Christian Nation in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Oh, and try not deviate from the topic Nick.
Regards.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why the United States Is a Christian Nation in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
But you say it is against flesh and blood?
No again Nick. On first take you nearly always get it wrong. Pray that God will grant you wisdom.
The US government is authority in high places. Further, the kind of government you have can help to allow spiritual powers to rule over a land. These things matter and this is why Believers are instructed to…[Read more]
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