@Lightenup

Looks like Proclaimer has gotten distracted from the January 9th question.

Well he said he needs time.

Have you any thoughts about Jesus being identified as YHVH and God?

I’m not 100% sure about that.

@Lightenup

Thank you!

@Lightenup

Ok, thank you for your responses.
You made some very good points.
I will think about it.
Blessings.

@Lightenup

If Christ had always existed alongside the Father, then
that would make them brothers or twins.
Not a real Father and Son.

I believe that Jesus was actually begotten by God in eternity past.
Jesus is truly the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16

And Jesus said that His Father is the only true God.
“And this is eternal life, that they…[Read more]

@Lightenup

You said: I do believe that it can be said that the Father is a father to the Most High Son.

“the Most High Son“??
Sorry, I don’t find this phrase in my Bible.

Jesus is not the Most High Son. He is the Son of the Most High. Luke 1:32

Now to your question:
Jesus was begotten by his Father before all worlds.
At that point He was…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Jesus is not the Most High. He is the Son of the Most High.

Let’s read it again. Luke 1:32 says “He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High.”

@Lightenup

Luke 1:32 says “He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High.”
Who is the Most High, and who is His Son?

@Lightenup

So, if I understand you correctly, the one that is identified as Yahweh, who appeared to Abraham on earth, standing next to him, talking to him face to face in Genesis 18 is the Father of Jesus in your opinion. Correct?

No. I believe this was Jesus.
Jesus bears the name of His Father.
But Jesus is not Yahweh. He is the Son of…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Do you agree that the Son is identified as God, and YHVH in Hebrews 1:8-12 by his Father

I agree in part.
As you said “As with any scripture, the context will be very important to consider.”
Jesus bears the NAME of His Father Yahweh God.
Jesus is Yahweh God by nature, not identity.
Yahweh is the Father of Jesus (Psalm 2; Acts 4), hence…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Ok, first we need to establish the identity of Yahweh.
Who is Yahweh?

Psalm 2:2
The kings of the earth take a stand, and the rulers take counsel together, against Yahweh, and against his Anointed

This Psalm is quoted by the first Christians in Acts 4.

24 When they heard it, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord and said,…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Can an eternal existence (both past and future) be inherited?

No.
Let me explain my beliefs.
I don’t believe that Jesus is a co-eternal Person alongside the Father.
But im not a JW. Jesus was not created.
I believe that Jesus was literally ‘born’ of God as a literal Son in eternity past.
So in his very nature He is equal to His…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Hi Danny,

Do you believe that the name YHVH also can apply to the Son of God?

Yes, of course, because Jesus inherited everything from His Father.

@Lightenup

You teach that YHWH doesn’t have a son.

@edj @Lightenup

I noticed heaps of posts in spam from you guys and they are repeat posts.

Are you guys hitting the back button instead of clicking the Edit link?

Remember, the Edit link remains for 1 hour before it disappears, so that is plenty of time to get the post looking right.

I would like to understand how this is happening to you…[Read more]

@Lightenup, all goods then. It’s somewhere in the beginning of this thread, but I did read it 🙂

Hi @Lightenup, sorry I haven’t got around to replying to you yet, only have my phone today (and most days), and it is almost impossible to post here with it.

@Lightenup,

According to Paul the body that is planted is not the body arises. The example of this is Jesus who was planted in a mortal body and arose in an immortal body that bore the marks of his self-sacrifice. All the dead, both the wicked and righteous, will likewise rise from the dead in an immortal body. That body like Jesus’ will be…[Read more]