Hello Martian,Ya know, I'm sorry, I've obviously upset you.  Please forgive me.I have my convictions, you have yours.  We have to do our best with what we are given.  By the way, I am interested in the history of cultures, in fact I have spent some time recently with a Rabbi to do just that.  He is a Messianic Jewish Rabbi.  I have also taken 3 se…[Read more]

Hi Martian,You have asked, “Christ pre-existed and that teaching produces what?”My answer:Believing that Christ pre-existed as the Son of God has been the biggest eye opener of my spiritual life. It has changed my life and I am so much more interested in studying scripture and doing God's will than I was before . That has been 15 years now. I…[Read more]

Dear Martian,I looked at the greek and I think that Heb 1:8-10 is well translated in the NASB. But thanks anyway.

Hi Nick,You asked if time was before Genesis? Well, I can't recall scripture to answer that. I can't imagine a place without time being a factor or measured in some way. I suppose it is possible to have the passing of time with a different way to measure it. The Bible does say a day is like a thousand years: 2 Peter 3:88 But do not let this…[Read more]

Nick,Does God need time? hmmmm. I suppose it depends on what He wants to accomplish and how He wants to accomplish it. I'm sure He is in control of that too. What is your point?

Hi t8,What do you think that He emptied Himself of?

Dear Nick,You wrote:——————————————————————————–Posted: Mar. 14 2008,06:01 Hi LU,Gen 1'1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God…[Read more]

Hello to all,I understand the Son of God to be born of God not created by God. He is called the “firstborn” not the “first created”. Read this from 1 John 5:18-19:18 We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him. NASUGal 4:4-54 But when the fullness of the time came, God…[Read more]

Dear Mrs.,Good post!Col 1:17 And He is before all things That refers to the Son of God there too, Gene and Martian.

Gene and Martian,I'm sorry,I said:I just gave you an example of Gene “torquing the words to make it come out a different way.' The very thing you complain about others doing. I meant to say:I just gave you an example of Martian “torquing the words to make it come out a different way.' The very thing you complain about others doing.

Dear Gene and Martian,Martian wrote:John 17:5″ And now, O Father glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.Martian continues:What was with God before the world was?   The glory for Jesus.  We also have glory set aside for us, that does not mean that we were there before the world was.And Gene w…[Read more]

Martian wrote:John 17:5″ And now, O Father glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.What was with God before the world was? The glory for Jesus. We also have glory set aside for us, that does not mean that we were there before the world was.And Gene writes:They have to torque the words to make…[Read more]

Dear Gene and Martian,Gene wrote:martian……..this is right on, these people who come up with the preexistence doctrines don't have a single verse that absolute says by Jesus or anyone else that Jesus preexisted. Jesus only existed in the plan and Will of God before he was born.My response:Heb 1:8-108 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD,…[Read more]

Hi Nick, I agree. As I understand the Bible, the Son would never want to be thought of as equal to the Father. I am curious what religion you are talking about?

Hi Nick,What religion is that? Do they make Jesus out to be equal to His Father?

Dear Mrs.The Father taught Him what He needed to know about. He grew in wisdom.Luke 2:5252 And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.NASUJohn 8:28-30I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me. 29 “And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do…[Read more]

Hi Nick,You asked:Did his origins have any impact on his nature, his mission or his ministry?If they did we cannot follow him. My response:I do not know whether they did or not but I don't think that I would put Jesus in the “box” that one's limited understandings want to put Him in. He is who He is. We can trust that He WAS made like His…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I am a mere woman, correct. I am a mere woman without a past existence and history before conception Jesus was a man but He was a man with a past existence and history. That is not the same, in fact, BIG, difference. However, He was born without memory of His past.

Hi Nick,That's true. I believe the Son of God is the Light, He is the Lamp of God, and is filled with the Light which enlightens every man and to those who receive Him they will also be filled with the light. I agree.

Hi Nick,You wrote:EVERY MAN seems to go beyond your idea of enlightenment. The light of Christ shines from Christ in the enlightenedBut most are not thereby enlightened. All are enlightened, some will receive it and then shine that light to others, some will not receive it and not shine that light to others. The light shines in the darkness but…[Read more]