Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 01 2009,15:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,18:17)Marty, I do not think you know the “I” and “me” that I am asking you to identify.  Let me try to make it clearer.  Who is the “I” and the “me” referred to in verse 16?Isa 48:12-16″Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the l…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 04 2009,22:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 05 2009,13:35)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 04 2009,19:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 04 2009,17:37)Hi Marty,Quote Hi LU:I have no doubt that God has spoken to you in answer to your prayer about the “the Firstborn of Creation”, but I believe that you have misunderstood what He was saying to you.  Our…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 04 2009,19:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 04 2009,17:37)Hi Marty,Quote Hi LU:I have no doubt that God has spoken to you in answer to your prayer about the “the Firstborn of Creation”, but I believe that you have misunderstood what He was saying to you.  Our Father & God has said:Quote  Jam 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him a…[Read more]

Hi DK,Very good questions! Way to be bold:) Press on…LU

Hi Marty,Quote Hi LU:I have no doubt that God has spoken to you in answer to your prayer about the “the Firstborn of Creation”, but I believe that you have misunderstood what He was saying to you. Our Father & God has said:Quote Jam 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 03 2009,13:08)Kathi,Frank Peretti was very close friends with my youth pastor growing up.  We used to see him all the time, and he would share his stories with us.  He is the most amazing story teller – love that man – and his work.Hope all is well with you,MandyHi Mandy,I'll bet that was neat to be around Frank Peretti and h…[Read more]

Thanks Martian,I'll look that over.LU

Thanks Irene,I hope you are having a good day.Love, Kathi

Quote (martian @ Feb. 03 2009,09:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 03 2009,11:09)Hello, I just wanted to interject this:Matt 10:27-2827 What I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered, proclaim upon the housetops. RSVMatt 10:2727 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from…[Read more]

Hello, I just wanted to interject this:Matt 10:27-2827 What I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered, proclaim upon the housetops. RSVMatt 10:2727 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.(from New International Version)LU

Hi Nick,I don't know what specifically you are talking about but I don't think that we should discourage people from presenting their ideas/speculations as a theory. I agree that it is a problem when they lean on their understanding and not open to testing it. This is a good forum to share thoughts so others can challenge them and sharpen…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2009,18:10)HI, Why is it that men love treating their own speculations as being the equivalent of what is written?Adding human logic turns truth into unwise speculation.Romans 1:21For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2009,22:08)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2009,10:04)Hi LU, You said in another thread”Hi Martian,My stance on the “Light” of day one being the Son of God is a theory of which I developed after asking God what “Firstborn of all creation” meant.  During that quest, one day when I was homeschooling my son and we were reviewing…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Jan. 31 2009,17:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,09:00)Quote (martian @ Jan. 31 2009,13:29)Quote (martian @ Feb. 01 2009,05:25)Martian, You assume wrong.Quote Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.…[Read more]

Marty, I do not think you know the “I” and “me” that I am asking you to identify. Let me try to make it clearer. Who is the “I” and the “me” referred to in verse 16?Isa 48:12-16″Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. 13 “Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Jan. 31 2009,13:29)Quote (martian @ Feb. 01 2009,05:25)Martian, You assume wrong.Quote Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.  Good grief.  That thinking of yours surely brings into question your t…[Read more]

Martian, You assume wrong.Quote There fore I can assume (as you did with light) that anytime way is found in the OT it means Jesus?Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.  Good grief.  That thinking of yours surely b…[Read more]

Hi Marty,You asked:Quote Can you produce a scripture which states that Jesus pre-existed in a body before his virgin birth?  And if there is such a thing, was he a man or an angel or just what?  You cannot justify what you believe through speculation, and that is what you are doing here.Heb 1:10″YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF T…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Jan. 30 2009,15:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 31 2009,07:30)Thanks Martian,I have read that before…pure specuation on your Hebrew scholar's part, but thanks.  BTW, light fills things, things don't fill light.  The day one light doesn't fill the sun, moon and the stars.  I can understand filling the earth with plants, animals, et…[Read more]

Thanks Martian,I have read that before…pure specuation on your Hebrew scholar's part, but thanks. BTW, light fills things, things don't fill light. The day one light doesn't fill the sun, moon and the stars. I can understand filling the earth with plants, animals, etc. but I can't agree with the concept of filling the light with the sun, moon…[Read more]