Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2009,19:42)Hi LU, Neither was john the WORD though he spoke the words of God too.That is right Nick,John the Baptist spoke God's words, was filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb, lived a humble existence yet was not credited with being the “Light” or the “Word.” He was not THE Light or THE Word, that was unique…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 04 2009,20:18)LU……………….John the baptist is not John we read of in the rest of the scriptures. The Spirit was (ON) Him not in Him as it was On the  disciples until the Day of Pentecost, at that time the Spirit came to be with in them, Thats why Jesus could say the least into the Kingdom was greater the John the…[Read more]

Hi Nick,The Father is the source of the Son's illumination and the Son illumines us. Don't you think that it is curious that John the Baptist who had the Spirit of God within him said that he was not the light. He was out there testifying about Jesus yet he said specifically that he was not the light but the true light was Christ. So, I believe…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 04 2009,13:45)Hi KathiRespectfully I disagree with you because I do not believe there is any umambiguous scriptures that shows the prexisting God that was with God had a begining. IMO part of the nature of what makes God God is he is infinite and eternal. Therefore for Jesus do be all that the Father is in nature…[Read more]

Hi guys,Thanks for thinking this through with me.I believe that something that is created is going to have a different nature than its creator. Something that is born on the other hand is going to have the same nature of the one he came from.That's the difference. The Son of God has the same nature as the Father. The Father is greater because…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2009,17:16)Hi LU, Did God not create other sons who rejoiced as the foundations of earth were laid?Hi Nick,Yes, the other “sons” (angels) were created of God, not born of God. They were created by the Father through the Son. This likely happened on day one as well as the domain of darkness which was empty.The only…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 03 2009,13:05)Lu………thats only if you assume the word (WORD) is referring to Jesus , Ask you self this question If John meant Jesus why didn't He simply say Jesus. He know who Jesus was all the time. He didn't put Jesus there because his wasn't talking about Jesus. This is what man has deduced, but the wording  does not…[Read more]

One of those blonder moments ey Mandy?…I have too many of them myself! It is good to laugh at ourselves.Kathi

zMandy, You say:Quote To say that Jesus is “God of God” is somewhat different in my mind.  Because I believe that Jesus is the true and literal Son of God…..I do believe he could be considered “of” God.  I do believe scripture teaches this.Keep your momentum here If you can accept the idea of Jesus being God of God , the Son of the Father, t…[Read more]

Thanks guys for that…How 'bout those snow crystals, huh… or the butterfly that sprung out of the cocoon that was prepared by itself as a caterpillar, two yet one. A bird feathering her nest…she just knows to put the soft stuff inside, she uses spider webs to hold it together…amazing! Then she feeds her newly hatched with carefulness.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,17:26)Hi, So Jesus is the Son of God. He is not the God of whom he is the son. trinity is of men.Hi Nick,You are right. He is the God who has a God.Hebrews 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Kathi

Hi ya'llAll the Greek manuscripts in this passage use theos (God/god) in theses verses and not kuriou (Lord/lord) I have included several versions of the same passage.Heb 1:8-98 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM. 9 “YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED…[Read more]

Nick, I think that Georg was unclear since you moved the post of Gene's over to this thread and it didn't have quote boxes. It seems that his comments were meant to be directed to Gene. (Sorry for the confusion Georg)Kathi

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,18:21)Hi LU,God is light. Jesus is the light because God is in him We too can be lights on the hill if God is in us.Hi Nick,John the Baptist also had God in him, even from the womb yet he declared he was not the light but came for a witness to bear witness to the true light.  That true Light is the Son of God.…[Read more]

Gotta runKathi

Nick,Light embodied the likeness of sinful flesh and became a man. He appeared like any other sinner yet had no sin, no darkness within. He took on our sins while on the cross, not before.1 Peter 2:2424 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross,NASUWe can follow Him…absolutely!Kathi

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 01 2009,17:11)Hi Nick,Thanks for those verses.  They apply to common man.  Does one apply to the Son specifically?  Can you show me where the Son ever had darkness in Him? Or how about where He walked in darkness?  I'm not tryin to be difficult , really!LUHi Nick,Thanks but you gave me another verse about common man, can…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Thanks for those verses. They apply to common man. Does one apply to the Son specifically? Can you show me where the Son ever had darkness in Him? Or how about where He walked in darkness? I'm not tryin to be difficult , really!LU

I see that, thanks Nick.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,13:24)Hi LU, Indeed since the Jordan that light has been in him.Hi Nick,I am confused by what you say. No where do I see that light comes “in” Him at the Jordan. He knew God to be His Father as a young boy, doesn't that demonstrate that He had “light” in Him?Maybe you can show me scripture that says that light…[Read more]