Quote (bodhitharta @ June 24 2009,01:46)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2009,07:00)Bo, Exactly, there is only one source God and if He has a son then that son is the begotten God…independent, not part of the one source but from the one source.  God begets the same nature and the one begotten is called after the same type. Man begets man, GOD begets…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2009,22:53)Hi LU, The first deception Satan led the early church into was that both the Father and the Son were God and that they were a single binity God. Having bravely gone thus far into folly some decided that perhaps the Spirit of God was another god in God and thence the trinity idea became orthodoxy.Hi Nick,I…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 23 2009,15:16)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,Who is speaking in this passage:Rev 3:1212 'He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2009,15:35)Hi LU, Are you now a binity believer?That was the origin of trinity folly.Nick,Please tell me what the definition of a binity believer is.Kathi

Bo, Exactly, there is only one source God and if He has a son then that son is the begotten God…independent, not part of the one source but from the one source.  God begets the same nature and the one begotten is called after the same type. Man begets man, GOD begets God.  There is only one source of all, the Most High GOD. His son is not the s…[Read more]

Thinker,The main reason that He was begotten was so that He could be raised that is why the two concepts are spoken of together. The resurrection was the fulfillment of the purpose of which He was begotten.There is no such concept in the Bible of an “eternal word” no where in any unambiguous form.Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ June 23 2009,05:04)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,The Greek does not go by word order, you know that don't you?  Maybe you ought look up the Colwell's rule and learn about predicate nominatives.  You might brush up on the accusative case while you are at it.Kathi,Elston failed to prove his grammar. He said that it was an “…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 22 2009,17:32)Lightenup said:Quote The disciples were sent in the same way…the greater sends the lesser, the master sends the slave.  That is how the Son was sent…by His superior-the Father and likewise that is how the disciples are sent, by their superior-Jesus. The one sent follows the example of the one who has…[Read more]

Thinker,Hebrews 1 does not say that He was begotten as a Son at His exaltation, it says that in the past, He was told “today, I have begotten you” but it doesn't tell us when. Hebrews 1 said that the one who He was exalting (the Son/Lord) laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands (note that it says hands here…[Read more]

Hi Bo,As I understand it, Muslims have to do good works to gain eternal life and that their good works need to outweigh their bad works, Christians rest in the Lord Jesus's work to gain eternal life and while resting in Him, He serves others through them.Heb 4:10-1110 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as…[Read more]

Hi Joe,Raising two kids as a single dad must be very difficult especially in those teen years. A good youth group has been great for my kids as well as the support of adults in their lives. I am thankful for God's love as it flows through people at church and elsewhere. I heard an interesting thought yesterday from a previous pastor of mine on…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 23 2009,12:36)Quote (Lightenup @ June 22 2009,14:25)Quote (thethinker @ June 21 2009,19:03)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2009,09:26)Here is a long message given from a former high priest satanist who is now a born again believer.  It is good to be aware of the schemes of satan.  It is worth watching through to the end.  …[Read more]

Stu,I'm up to 10 minutes 58 seconds…you have a lot of catching up to do Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ June 22 2009,17:50)Lightenup said:Quote I do not agree that there was no Son before the incarnation.Kathi,Please give your biblical evidence. There is no word of a Son until Psalm 2:7.thinkerThinker,I have shown you. The NT explains the OT. You can find it in Hebrews chapter 1.Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ June 22 2009,19:57)Lightenup wrote:Quote Tim Elston, a doctoral candidate of the New Testament at Denver Seminary with a BA in Linguistics from the University of Oregon, explains it thus:The absence of the article before “God” in John 1:1 is meant to indicate that “God” is the predicate nominative rather than the subject of the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 22 2009,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ June 23 2009,03:54)Stuart,Are you afraid to watch the video Stu?  It is FREE to view you know…imagine all that info, a 2 1/2 hour video that he could be selling but he isn't.  BTW, he does not want your money It was not my money I was thinking of.  In any case, 2 1/2 hours??  Who would ser…[Read more]

Hi all,”Blessed be Your Name”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyqn2LxKVkLet it bring you to worship Him and have a great day wherever you are,Kathi

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 22 2009,02:32)Quote (Lightenup @ June 22 2009,13:03)I have come to the conclusion that we will all be wrong to some degree.  We are all sheep that have gone astray, each one turning to his own way but the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him.  I want to develop more of a heart that is prepared for growing s…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 22 2009,04:57)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 22 2009,18:32)Quote (Lightenup @ June 22 2009,13:03)I have come to the conclusion that we will all be wrong to some degree.  We are all sheep that have gone astray, each one turning to his own way but the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him.  I want to develop more of a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ June 22 2009,04:33)Lightenup said:Quote Christ isn't actually called “the word” in John 1:1.Verse 14 identifies the Word as Jesus.Lightenup said:Quote He did not always use the Son to speak for Him, He spoke in many ways.Exactly! This is true because there was no Son before the incarnation and resurrection of Jesus. And I…[Read more]