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Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 7 months ago
Thanks Pierre for putting that up. Do you have a link for that? You might want to add it to your info in your post. I would like to check out the link. I would appreciate it

Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 7 months ago
Hi Irene,I agree that Psalm 2 is about the Messiah but not only what will be in the future but His begetting as a Son before the ages.Your opinion is a new one to hear. You think that 'eternally begotten' means that He will always be begotten. I think that the intent is more to do with when He was originally begotten.Thanks for your view, Irene.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 7 months ago
Irene,The Father said this to the Son when He was first begotten as to His divinity before the ages and the decree was fulfilled at the resurrection as far as I can tell.Matthew Henry's commentary on Psalm 2:7 is here, in part:Psalms 2:7-9II. There is a declaration of that decree as far as is necessary for the satisfaction of all those who are…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 05 2010,03:54)Kathy,Remember that the English language changes constantly, for example. KJV renders that the word Replenish found in Genesis means in todays dictionary “To fill again”but in the time of the KJV it means only “To fill”I think getting a REALLY OLD dictionary from the times that you are looking for would…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Oct. 04 2010,20:30)Kathi! First would Jehovah God be eternally begotten? No,but Jesus is, meaning for all eternity He will be begotten. I don't think that you can look this up in the Dictionary since it is two words. We know what eternal means and we know what begotten means. So put both together and you have Jesus being eter…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Christ was not created!!!! in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 04 2010,20:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2010,16:12)Mike,I have concluded that the Spirit must enlighten the scriptures for us because we are going nowhere.Until then we should probably agree to disagree.It has gotten to that point, don't you think? Unless some new enlightenment comes, I am going to just let this rest on…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 04 2010,20:40)KathyChrist is God son,in how many ways do we have to show it so people can accepted?Christ is God s King,and is kingdom will not pass to any other and is eternal;so Christ is not only the SON but also King.we also know from scriptures that Christ is a priest for ever;SO NOW CHRIST IS THE SON,THE KING,THE…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Oct. 04 2010,20:30)Kathi! First would Jehovah God be eternally begotten? No,but Jesus is, meaning for all eternity He will be begotten. I don't think that you can look this up in the Dictionary since it is two words. We know what eternal means and we know what begotten means. So put both together and you have Jesus being eter…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Christ was not created!!!! in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,22:45)Kathi:Quote If I built a house THROUGH a particular contractor then we both get credit for building the house. I may have drawn up the design of the floor plan, forked out the money, chosen all the finishes, hired the contractor BUT the contractor certainly GETS CREDIT for the actual building of the house.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2010,21:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2010,19:49)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2010,19:59)Kathymy question did all those questions and study give s us more inside or more confussion ??John 3:16-1816″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Keith,I can't believe that you keep writing the Greek word as if it can't be translated.Quote Jesus is the Only Monogenes Son.Are you still having problems with monogenes being 'only begotten?' Well, at least you aren't writing the 'one and only' or the 'only unique one,' so that's good. The creeds have no problem using the word 'begotten' why…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum Prayer & Advice 15 years, 7 months ago
Hi Kerwin,Just noticed your thread. May God continue to strengthen you and that your new kidney continues to improve your health. My dad died in June this year and he had been on kidney dialysis which was no fun for him. So, it is good that you were able to get a transplant.And hello to Mandy, I hope you are doing well, you look the same

Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2010,19:59)Kathymy question did all those questions and study give s us more inside or more confussion ??John 3:16-1816″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.17″For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Christ was not created!!!! in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,13:09)Hi Dennison and Kathi,I'll get to your posts probably tomorrow. I've been babysitting a two year old all weekend………enough said?
peace and love,mikeMike,No hurry…get out those dominoes
Have a fun time!Lightenup replied to the topic Christ was not created!!!! in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Oct. 03 2010,08:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 12 2010,19:52)Colossians 1:15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:Christ was Created claim:Based SOLELY on this scripture many have stated that Christ has been created in the beginning. Which i strongly believe is false. the only scripture that is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 03 2010,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,12:46)You can't BE “THE GOD”, and at the same time be WITH “THE GOD” Keith.Why not? You can be with your wife and still be one flesh, right? They share the same Spirit and nature and they are “One God”.WJKeith,This is a different comparison:Gen 2:23Then the man said,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 03 2010,04:44)Lu, all I did was post some facts on mormonism. These are the points I was drawing attention to….Mormonism teaches that Jesus is a procreated being, the literal offspring of God the Father To support their view, Mormons appeal to John 3:16, which states Jesus is the “only begotten.” The Greek word used there…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 02 2010,21:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2010,19:26)Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 02 2010,19:04)Hey,Nice to see some agreement going on in this forum…and between two of my favoured posters, nice.Many agree in error and then some find their way to truth. Narrow is the path but few find it.Kathywhy is ? ;; Narrow is the path…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 02 2010,22:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2010,13:24)Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 02 2010,17:45)The only ones who believe God procreated another equal god are Mormans, what is spoken of here is mormanism.Actually Shimmer…that is not true at all. We must be careful what we write and the accusations made.But this all sounds…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 02 2010,19:04)Hey,Nice to see some agreement going on in this forum…and between two of my favoured posters, nice.Many agree in error and then some find their way to truth. Narrow is the path but few find it.
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