Georg,you said:Quote Ps. eternally begotten means, when God beget his son, Jesus, he was to live for ever with God; so were the angels, but as we know, some of them sinned and will not live for ever. Eternally begotten has different meanings even among the early church fathers and you can review this thread to see that. I can certainly agree with…[Read more]

Georg,you said Quote “””The only begotten God. John 1:18″”” This is not how it is written. Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. You have to do some more studying because it is translated as God in some Bibles and the word, 'son' does not appear in the…[Read more]

I do not agree with you Georg. I do not think that the nature of God is spirit. The nature of God is much more. If His nature was spirit then the angels and God would have the same nature.The nature of God is a divine nature (See 2 Pet 1:4 which you put up in your post above.) 2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 29 2010,20:57)Mark:Quote God never changes. Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. Jesus never changes. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Hi All, My first thought is that Jesus most definitely HAS changed throughout his life.  He went…[Read more]

Pierre,The Son is the radiance of that glory.  The Son is glorified by being that radiance of the Father's glory.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2010,18:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2010,12:11)Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 01 2010,11:33)Mike, the thread is about 'Do Spirits have bodies', not 'AngelsReally JA?Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?But you think the thread is about “spirits”, not “angels”?…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,13:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,08:59)I came across this verse to show that spirit is the opposite of flesh in some contexts:Isa 31:33 Now the Egyptians are men and not God, And their horses are flesh and not spirit; So the Lord will stretch out His hand, And he who helps will stumble And he who is helped…[Read more]

I came across this verse to show that spirit is the opposite of flesh in some contexts:Isa 31:33 Now the Egyptians are men and not God, And their horses are flesh and not spirit; So the Lord will stretch out His hand, And he who helps will stumble And he who is helped will fall, And all of them will come to an end together. NASU

Here are some more scriptures that show that our spirit does things but is not a separate person but our inner person:n 41:88 Now in the morning his spirit was troubled, so he sent and called for all the magicians of Egypt, and all its wise men. And Pharaoh told them his dreams, but there was no one who could interpret them to Pharaoh. NASUGen…[Read more]

Hi Ted, I agree and thanks for your input. Do you want to find a topic already started on the Nicene Creed so we can discuss it?

Shimmer,Look at this verse:Matt 11:27 NASB”All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.Why isn't the Holy Spirit mentioned if He is a separate person?Why doesn't the Holy Spirit know the Father or the…[Read more]

Hi Shimmer,I bumped a post for you to look at and think about as you ponder the question about the Holy Spirit being a separate person.You can find it here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y275286

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2009,22:37)Trinitarians believe that the Holy Spirit is a separate “being” of the triune God.  I suggest this was not the message of scriptures.  It is never mentioned of the Spirit as being the “third person of the trinity” anywhere in scriptures.  As Michael L. Brown says in Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus,” p. 53…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2010,22:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2010,19:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 30 2010,11:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 28 2010,20:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,08:13)Pierre,Interesting question.  We will be perfect and will always do what the Father and Son ask.Hi Kathi,I have to agree with Pierre on this one.  It w…[Read more]

So, I will respond to that PM here.Edj said:Quote You are starting up your negative posturing again.But Edj do you not acknowledge that you make derogatory comments about me to others, stemming from you not liking that I accused you of hacking up my post?  Do you not acknowledge the one most recently made which I quoted above?  I don't believe t…[Read more]

Here is a PM from Edj to me that I received today.  I want to not discuss this through pm's as I have said before because I believe it will help Edj be more honest.  I take no delight in exposing any faults but I do believe there needs to be accountability especially since Edj keeps making derogatory remarks stemming back to this incident as l…[Read more]

Mike,Regarding 'eternal essence:'We find the term 'essence/nature' here:The Son is the radiance of his glory and the representation of his essence, and he sustains all things by his powerful word, and so when he had accomplished cleansing for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. NASB ©biblegateway Heb 1:3And He is the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 28 2010,20:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,08:13)Pierre,Interesting question.  We will be perfect and will always do what the Father and Son ask.Hi Kathi,I have to agree with Pierre on this one.  It would seem that being immortal and having a heavenly body does not make one “perfect” and mean they obey all of God's c…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 29 2010,04:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,18:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 28 2010,20:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,06:19)His body was resurrected and the spirit was returned to it and the resurrected body is what was granted immortality.  The pre-existing eternal essence of Christ did not die.  The human essence o…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2010,14:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 30 2010,01:11)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2010,01:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 30 2010,00:14)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 28 2010,20:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,15:13)Pierre,Interesting question.  We will be perfect and will always do what the Father and Son ask.Gal 5:18-2318 But if…[Read more]