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Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Lightenup @ April 01 2012,19:59)Mike,It doesn't say greater 'in power' does it?bump…don't give me opinion. Regarding the verses you put down, do they say greater 'in power'? Yes or No
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Here is an extra-Biblical account saying that the Roman census tells of a Dec. 25th birth:The extrabiblical evidenceSt. John Chrysostom (347-407 A.D.), whose status in eastern Orthodoxy is comparable to that of Augustine in western Roman Catholicism, argued strongly for a Dec. 25 birthdate because of the course of Zacharias’ priestly service. B…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
It is interesting that here, most want the church to be wrong about Christmas. What I have shown here is:1. Zacharias served in the temple in the fall as well as the Spring and Elisabeth could have been six months pregnant around March 25th.2. The Dec. 25th date was arrived at aside from the sun god and before Constantine came along.3. Shephards…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Hippolytus acknowledges Dec. 25th as the birthday of Christ:Hippolytus in his Commentary on Daniel 4.23.3 says: For the first advent of our Lord in the flesh, when he was born in Bethlehem, eight days before the kalends of January , the 4th day of the week , while Augustus was in his forty-second year, but from Adam five thousand and five…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
More info:Aurelian strengthened the position of the Sun god, Sol (Invictus) or Oriens, as the main divinity of the Roman pantheon. His intention was to give to all the peoples of the Empire, civilian or soldiers, easterners or westerners, a single god they could believe in without betraying their own gods. The center of the cult was a new temple,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Some info here:Of course, the date of Christmas is not particularly important in the origins of Christianity, and has no bearing on Christian theology. It is worth noting, however, that the feast of the birthday of the sun, while definitely Pagan, wasn't pre-Christian. It was only established in 274 CE by the emperor Aurelian (Hutton, p. 1). Even…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike,It doesn't say greater 'in power' does it?
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Nick,The Son is the power and wisdom of God, He is the arm of Jehovah.If the Son IS the power and wisdom of God, how is it that you say that the power of God is greater than the Son?Mike,I looked at your scriptures, they say nothing about power.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
True Nick, they are together our God and Lord.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Nick and Mike,The Father and the Son are inseparable. Nothing has power over the Father and the Son. The Father doesn't have power over the Son, He has power with the Son and visa versa. The are one in unity.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Really Nick??yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.
Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 14 years, 1 month ago
Now this guy is hilarious…this will even make grouchy people laugh
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Yes Nick, it is likely. When the Bible refers to Jehovah being one, it is in regards to a unity called Jehovah consisting of more than one person as I understand it.Jehovah = God of gods and Lord of lords.Jesus is the Lord of lords…for us there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.Rev 17:14They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2012,14:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2012,23:21)How is He Lord of all but not Lord of all?Kathi,How has “everything” been put under Jesus' feet when “everything” truly hasn't been put under his feet?1 Cor 15:27 spells it out that everything WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GOD HIMSELF is under the feet of Jesus.Likewise, Jesus is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Irene,Explain this:Gen 19:24Then Jehovah rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from Jehovah out of the heavens.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2012,15:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2012,16:49)Nick,His flesh was conceived. Spirit is not conceived. The sperm and egg make up the flesh. Do you have a 'spirit' genotype?Hi Lu, Scripture sys he was a man. Jesus of Nazareth, anointed by the Holy Spirit, but you differ?Nick,Show me where I have ever said that He was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Earthly or Spiritual Minded in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
You're welcome shimmer.
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Then there is this article from Wikipedia about the origin of Sol Invictus where it is denied that Sol Invictus was celebrated before the feast of Christmas.Sol Invictus (“Invincible Sun”) was the official sun god of the later Roman Empire. In 274 the Roman emperor Aurelian made it an official cult alongside the traditional Roman cults. Scholars…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Gene,you said:Quote You can also understand that his berth was a holy day becasue all the people cam to Jerusalem for a senses and that is why there was not room at the end for Mary and Joesph, this senses was conducted at a time of a Holy Day event , So Jesus had to be Borne on one of these day , And there Is No Jewish Holy day in December that I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is observing christmas and easter ok? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 27 2012,04:42)Hey David,Esther 9:5 The Jews struck down all their enemies with the sword, killing and destroying them, and they did what they pleased to those who hated them.This is what their celebrating, sounds like a pagan custom, could there be anything more in opposition to Christian principles.19 That is why rural…[Read more]
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