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Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Jesus appeared to Saul/Paul after Pentecost which was after His ascension when the church was beginning to be established and Saul was taking part in having the Christians stoned/killed for speaking in the name of Jesus.
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,23:19)Prepare yourselves Church. The Binitarians and Trinitarians are attacking us again.Bring out the Word of God.The cult leader of the church of three members feels attacked…keep it up guys!Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,23:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 24 2013,11:31)Right on Keith. Last I looked, men do not have the same nature as a cow. The term 'cow' is an identity of sorts but within the cow barn, Old Betsie the cow is a different identity than Old Maggie, another cow, yet they are equally both cows. They both have the same strengths and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic In the Beginning in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2013,16:35)Hi Lup.Have you ever considered that perhaps the Son is the eternal Spirit which had no beginning as in was not created but is a part of the one true God YHVH just as a persons spirit is a part of the totality of who they are?Hi 2bes(Lup?) How about LU for short, ok?Yes I have considered that. I understand the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote You got it! Jesus has a lot of worshipers!Yes He does, including His disciples!
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,16:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,13:32)Keith…touche'!Very well put
Thanks KathiI feel I owe you an apology from my last discourse with you but I haven't been around here until now.I remember being a little harsh and ask for your forgiveness.Blessings WJForgiven! Thank you 
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Right on Keith. Last I looked, men do not have the same nature as a cow. The term 'cow' is an identity of sorts but within the cow barn, Old Betsie the cow is a different identity than Old Maggie, another cow, yet they are equally both cows. They both have the same strengths and weaknesses, generally speaking if they are both healthy. They both…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic In the Beginning in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 5 months ago
Hi 2besee,It doesn't appear that you have ever considered that YHVH is one corporate/compound unity with each member also called YHVH. Have you just assumed that YHVH is a name for one…one person?Do you realize the Israel is a compound unity of the sons of Israel + Jacob who is called Israel?So, with Israel as an example…Israel is a name of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,01:57)I agree with you William and I am glad that we agree together on the Nicene Creed and both understand the word 'catholic' as meaning universal and not Roman Catholic. I'm not sure, but I think that there are currently maybe four of us active here on HN that agree with the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote So the dog(nature) Spot(identity) begets the dog(nature) Rover(identity).Is Rover less Dog than Spot? That is as easy as I can make it Mike. Can't help you see it more than that. Yes Keith, that is pretty easy to understand! Nice one!!
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Keith…touche'!Very well put

Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Bo,He did appear to a non-believing Jew…Paul.
Lightenup replied to the topic Compound unity scriptural database in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 5 months ago
Numbers 21:2And Israel vowed a vow to the LORD and said, “If you will indeed give this people into my hand, then I will devote their cities to destruction.”Here a compound unity called “Israel” uses singular pronouns such as 'my' and 'I.'
Lightenup replied to the topic In the Beginning in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 5 months ago
So, Mike, when you say all other things were created through Jesus, then you must admit that all other things were not directly created by the Father. Do you see that?
Lightenup replied to the topic In the Beginning in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 5 months ago
Mike,Didn't you say that the Father only directly created one thing?
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Bo,you asked:Quote I guess you missed my point, If I told you I was a prophet how would you know it was true unless a prophecy of mine came true during my life and more explicitly during your life if the prophecy was told to you?If you only declared one prophecy and didn't declare it to happen in yours or my lifetime, then I wouldn't know but that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic In the Beginning in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 5 months ago
Hi 2besee,What Mike said in the above post on the top of this page, ultimately amounts to saying that Jesus directly created all things and the Father indirectly created all things. Mike thinks that Jesus is the only thing that the Father directly created even though the Bible says that Jesus is the only 'begotten' (not created) Son, not the only…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Hi Bo,you asked:Quote 450 years before the fact would be a prophecy not fulfilled in a life time which is usually the measurement of prophetic success in general. For instance explained here:Deuteronomy 18:22If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is observing christmas and easter ok? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
I came across this to show support for the Dec. 25th date for the birth of Christ:Another View: Maybe Christ was born on DEC 25th afterall!By John Eidsmoe and Ben DuPréThe secularizers commonly defend the de-Christianization of Christmas by noting that America is a much more diverse nation than we used to be, that we shouldn't offend others, that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Hi Bo,You will see in this Targum of the Psalms translation that v. 3 speaks of the beauty of 'King Messiah' in Psalm 45, and therefore shows that the Rabbi's applied this passage to be about the Messiah. The dating of the Targum of the Psalms is uncertain.Psalm 451. For praise; concerning those who sit in the Sanhedrin of Moses, which wa…[Read more]
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