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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
LU….whose son was Adam after he was created, scripture says he was the son of GOD, NOW DO YOU WORSHIP HIM AS THE SON OF GOD, If not why not?, following your logic you should, right?
JODI is exactly right in what she has written. And as far a JESUS GOES, HE WAS SAID TO HAVE COME THROUGH THE LOINS OF DAVID, according to the apostle PAUL. WHY HAS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike…you ask why does the earth look so small when view from the moon, so why does the sun look so small when viewed from the earth? ‘
Simple answer for both questions, IT BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE FROM THE OBJECTS, THAT CAUSES THEN TO APPEAR SMALLER. FIRST GRADE LEVEL QUESTION. THE EARTH IN THE PICTURE FROM THE MOON IS “EXACTLY” RIGHT AS SEEN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike what your forgetting the suns gravitational pulling effect, both the moon and the earth at the same time, and as the moon circles the earth it is pulled forward on it earth orbit as it comes back toward the sun which recharges it momentum, and then the moon repeats the process over and over as they mon and earth go on there journey around the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Dig4truth….No you never responded to the 13 Scriptures I posted to you that apsolutly prove you were wrong, go back and read them , and compare them to what you wrote. It,s as obvious as the nose on your face, you are completely wrong, by saying Jesus said he would raise himself. Those 13 scripture prove you completely wrong. Again do you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Dig4truth, o really, that’s not what I personally have seen with my oun eyes. Your using smoke and mirrors to try to convince people to believe a lie. There are thousands of evidences available to anyone that apsolutly prove the earth is round. It almost imbarnancing to even contemplate a flat earth, people have known for centuries the earth is a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike ,…where do you get the idea gyros prove the earth is flat at. They prove np such thing, what they only prove is that they resist change to what they are attached to. Not up or down change but only change to the direction they are spinning. That is why they can be used for navigation. Because they resist the change Rather to left to right…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike….you talk out of both sides of you mouth, you say No Gene God raised Jesus from the dead, but out of the other side you said Jesus is speaking when he said , destroy his temple and in three days (I) shall raise it up.
Now who is the (I) mentioned there that was going to raise the destroyed temple, and why would let Jesus even call his oun…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Anthony….crazy is right brother. This whole FE thing is simply a waste of valuable time, Just as Nick has said. Has apsolutely nothing to do with salvation, just a waste and destraction.
Col 2:8….Beware lest any man spoil (rob) you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tridition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Dig4truth….You say no mention of gravity in scriptures, wrong again, what does this mean to you.
Luke 21:25-26….AND there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and waves roaring; 26, Men’s hearts failing them (heart attacks ) for fear, and looking after…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike….So the 13 scriptures i quoted for Dig4truth, which by the way i have yet to see a commit on, you also then must believe JESUS RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE DEAD, SO those 13 scriptures must not be in your bible either, or are you simply trying to incourage your co-hart in this FE thing, right, well anyway that makes sense, why you can’t seem to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
LU….Isa 42:1 …”behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delights; I have put my spirit upon him; he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. Also read verses 2-4
NOW THIS VERSE 5,..Thus says “GOD” THE (LORD), he that created the heavens, and streched them out; he that spread forth the earth and that which comes out…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Dig4truth…..so you say Jesus raised up himself from the grave, well if that be the case then he never “really” died, and you are still in your sins, because shams don’t work with God right?
Here is some scriptures that show it was God the Father who raised Jesus from the DEAD not himself.
Rom 10:9.., That if you shall confess with thy mouth…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike….Tell us who said this, “destory this “temple” and in three days (I) shall raise “it” up. That could not have been Jesus saying that because he said he was “dead” and the dead can’t raise themselves. So it was God the Father speaking through the very mouth of Jesus that said that. Scripture also says it was God who raised Jesus from the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Nick…yes brother, may the grace of God our Father, and savior remain on us both now and forever.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
LU… Jodi has presenting it “exactly” right, showing you true scriptures concerning our human ruler (Jesus), who is a fellow human being, and even better our brother, who is exactly like we are. Now glorified by our Father and his Father, our God and his God.
Please consider “earnestly” what she and us are telling you LU, I know it may be hard…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
LU….Php 2:10…”that at the name of Jesus every knee “should” bow, things in heaven, and things in earth and things under the earth;
11…And that every tongue should confess that Jesus The Christ (anointed one) is lord (adoni, a human ruler),to the glory of GOD the Father.That is the way i see it LU. I SEE NO SCRIPTURE that…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
LU….unless you can see Jesus was a (MAN), nothing more and nothing less that GOD the Father begot, by impregnating His fleshly mother Mary, MAKING him the (ONLY) HUMAN BEING, EVER BEGOTTEN BY GOD, from all of humankind, an ordinary human being like us all, who was given the (anointing) spirit of the living God at his baptizm by John at the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Jodi….Very well explained, indeed the “man” Jesus was without sin, and therefore the penalty of eternal death could not apply to him, because he was without sin, so God being true to his word, did not leave the “man” Jesus’, soul (body and spirit) in the grave. Because he had no sin, even though he was allowed to die once for us all, it was…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Nick…Is that not the same thing i and Jodi are saying, we are responsible for the sins in our lifes and with the spirit of God helping us “we” should work to cast evil out of our lives.
We simply can’t blame our sins on someone else, we must try to deal with them ourselves with thw spirit and help and grace, the Father gives us. I still have…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Yea Nick, i think Mike would have a hard time saying he is wrong even with the tons of proofs staring him in the face. I don’t think he has convienced one person here of a Flat Earth yet, that i know of.
We can’t say he didn’t try, i still love him though.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
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