TC…..JESUS said that Lazeros was asleep and he was going to awake him, the deciples said that it was good that he was sleeping , but Jesus told them he was DEAD.  Jesus himself said he was “dead”

Rev  1:18….I am he that lives, and was dead (G3498 ..a corpse; dead (literally or figuratively) ; also as noun :- DEAD.

But you preach he did not a…[Read more]

Anthony…..Glad you understand no one who has died will be resurected untill JESUS returns, all who have dies are dead, and will remain that way untill the resurection tales place. You have that right.

Peace and love to you and yours ……..gene

TC, saying there is a spirit “in” a man does not have anything to do with the man who is a living soul being a spirit being. AND AS FAR AS MY SAYING THAT PAGAN CULTURES BELIEVED IN PEOPLE STILL ALIVE AFTER DEATH, EVEN THE PAGAN EGYPTIANS BELIEVED THAT, that is common knowledge , Plato believed that and even Aristotle was so convienced of t h e…[Read more]

Nick….yes the word of God is powerful  even to the diviing asunder or,  (seperating)  the soul  ,  of (the living being,   from the spirit,  that dwell in that living Soul, and the the dividing of the joints and marrow, of the living soul, and is a discerned of the thoughts and intents of the heart (of that living soul ).

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Living souls are not spirits, they simply are bodies with the breath of life in them, any animal is a living soul if he is alive , he is a dead soul.same applies to all mankind. Adding to what genesis says a living soul is, Gen 2:7  is simply altering the text. Spirits can be added to living sould, but is not what makes a soul at all. When the…[Read more]

Anthony  2 Cor 7:1 does not say that,  the word soul is not there.

You must have meant 1 Ths 5:23 , the word spirit their means breath and the word soul comes from the word breath, so what Paul was saying was the complete body which includes your rational you, which is  spirit, another words the complete you.

When spirit leaves a person what re…[Read more]

Anthony……A LIVING SOUL consists of two things, a body from the dust of the earth, with the breath of life in it. Nothing more or less makes up a living  Soul according to scriptures, but you are right concerning Jesus death ,it was the complete Jesus that died, not just part of him. His complete SOUL WAS DEAD, just as he said , ” I WAS…[Read more]

Nick….. You misquoted 1 Peter 3:18…….”FOR CHRIST ALSO HAS ONCE SUFFERED FOR SINS, THE JUST FOR THE UNJUST, THAT  HE MIGHT BRING US TO GOD, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened “BY” the Spirit”.

Where do you see brought back to life “in” spirit at?

Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

Anthony…..Christ was crucified in the flesh and was made alive through the SPIRIT in the flesh.  HE BECAME A LIVING SOUL AGAIN, the same thing happens to us, when we die. We are resurected in the flesh by the same spirit, that raised Jesus from the dead.  No one ounce of difference.

All who believe we become spirit “beings” of somekind are f…[Read more]

Nick….You gave the answer to you own question, and I never said all spirit was the same spirit, just as all flesh is not the same flesh,  and I know not all have the “holy” (special) spirit from God the Father “in” them, that was not what I was addressing, I have always said spirits come in different types and kind, as does flesh things, but…[Read more]

Nick…..spirit is spirit, no matter what kind or type it is, it is still spirit,  all spirit is spirit, as it say spirit begets spirit, just as flesh begets flesh.

There is a spirit realm and there  is a physical realm, and as you and I and everyone else are different from each other, but still human physical being,  so spirits are spirit,  the…[Read more]

Nick….All spirits need a body to live in,  otherwise there would be no need for a “BODY” at all.  Why would God the Father  even resurect physical bodies, if they were not needed for him who is Spirit and our spirits to dwell in forever.

No scripture that I know of says spirits are bodies of anykind.  Jesus described the spirit as a force tha…[Read more]

TC……The LORD’S prayer says, ” OUR FATHER, which art in heaven, holy is they name, thy kingdom “COME” thy will be done  “ON EARTH”,  as in heaven.

When we die we do not go to heaven as you falsely preach, we return to the dust from whence we came, and the spirit returns to him who gave it, (GOD),  Our heavenly Father.

The dead KNOW NO…[Read more]

TC…..You make Jesus as himself out to be the anointing spirit he recieved.  Jesus was an ordinary human being who himself recieved the anointing from God the Father at the Jordan river, and then became a “spiritual” son of  God. Then the word who is God came to dwell in him, and spoke to us through the man Jesus.  Just as he did the pr…[Read more]

TC…..AMAZING see how you have shifted the “IMAGE” OF  JESUS FROM A MAN INTO to a GOD, IN YOUR false rendering of him. You have changed the anointed one into the GOD who created him, you preach exactly what the fallen church of 2 ths 2 TAUGHT.  You have taken a man Jesus the “anointed” one and have turned the “IMAGE” OF HIM INTO A GOD,  WHO YO…[Read more]

T8……Jodi explained exactly right, no one is resurected until Jesus returns to this earth,  scripture shows clearly that Jesus is the only one raised to eternal life so far, the first resurection takes place at his return. The trump shall sound and the dead in Christ shall rise first to meet the lord and then those still alive in Christ shall…[Read more]

Edj……The apostles ask Jesus  to tell them how to pray,  he to pray like this, “our father”  which art in heaven……… all of that was written in the  “PRESENT TENSE”.  SO  how do you and others think  you have  the right to change it to “Future Tense” ?

That is exactly what you people do to manulipate our text, causing confusi…[Read more]

Nick…….AMEN, brother, nothing changes,  those who understand  who Jesus really is, know he was a man, exactly as Moses prophesied,   not a prexisting God or demagod or being of any kind.  They understand Jesus was exactly like us in every way,  that he was taken from mankind and anointed by God with the holy spirit at the Jordan river and t…[Read more]

T8……Very good post brother. I agree with what he is saying.

Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

Anthony……we do believe Jesus is a son of man, we have no problem with that, he came into his existence as a man so why not believe he is a man. This is the way we see it,  “unto us there is “ONE” GOD, AND “ONE” MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN,  THE “MAN” JESUS THE CHRIST”  we also believe “GOD WAS RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO  “HIMSELF”  IN AND…[Read more]