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Hi Danny,
The plan of God was to establish a church unified by His Spirit in Christ.
If you do not have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his. Rom8
You must be born again of water and the Spirit to be a part of this plan.
Hi Danny,
Yes that is a popular idea.
But does it have scriptural support?
Did Peter preach that at Pentecost?
Hi Nick,
Yes, and you also need to do Romans 10:9.
“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”
Danny
Danny,
That is true if you do not think of it out of context of Scripture for it is also written:
2 Corinthians 11:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
and
Matthew 12:35Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
Hi DD,
You need to be aware that the book of Romans was written to the saved and not the unsaved.
It was taking the saved Jews to a level of useful faith.
Check Ch 1
If you need the blessing of the Spirit remember the promise of Jesus Christ that the Father will give the Spirit to His children who ask. Lk 11.13
Danny Dabbs. …..be careful with the words lord and LORD, THEY do not mean the same in Hebrew . The word for Jesus should be lord, (adoni) meanning a human ruler, the word LORD in HEBREW IS (adonia) meaning the SUPREME GOD, Big difference in there meaning.
Let me paraphrase something for you brother, “King David said, “the LORD (“adonia”, almighty God) said unto my lord (“adoni” a human ruler, Jesus) sit on my right side until I (adonia, almighty God), make your enemies your footstool.
Also Jesus “himself” is not the christ or anointing spirit that was on him, that was HOW GOD THE FATHER WAS IN HIM, remember when JESUS said, “the son of man can do “nothing” of himself, “the Father who is “IN” him “HE” does the works”. We can also have that “SAME” SPRITUAL ANOINTING IN US ALSO, which will make us one with God the Father and Jesus our lord (adoni).
I think you are beginning to see the truth after all those years, but don’t feel alone, nearly 95% of Christendom is in the same boat brother. But it delights me when i see someone who is comming to see the truth, i give thanks to God the Father for all that he brings to see the truth, they are truly being blessed, may he strenghten you in the sound truth brother, and the antisipation of the comming of our lord (adoni) JESUS, who is and was the anointed Son of the living God.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Hi t8,
If the Spirit of God wrote the bible through human vessels why do you not give the glory to God?
T8…..Do you truly, bow you knee and honor Jesus, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD” or is it to the GLORY OF JESUS? DO YOU TRULY SEE THE WORK OF GOD “IN” AND “THROUGH” THE MAN JESUS who is “EXACTLY” AS WE ARE, or do you see a preexisting being doing his own works speaking his own words? Can you truly call Jesus your true “BROTHER”, who is the first from our own kind, A PURE HUMAN BEING from HUMANITY to make it into the kingdom of God. The FIRST “BORN”, OF “ALL CREATION” TO MAKE IT, INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.?
Why can’t you come to see what we tirelessly keep telling you, the spirit of truth should be convencing you by now , if you have it. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
If the Spirit of God wrote the bible through human vessels why do you not give the glory to God?
More accusations. You assume too much about others based on your own limited understanding.
If you are led by the Spirit, you will love others and not subject them to condemnations, accusations, and falsities.
@Gene
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
Notice it says, “this rock”. That means it is specific to the context and not general.
What you teach is this:
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on THE rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
I believe Jesus words rather than what you are teaching me here.
Too many here seem to know more than scripture and the writers of scripture and the one who inspired them. I often hear things like, ‘technically speaking …’ which in some cases is like saying that scripture is not quite perfect, let me fix it.
T8…..Do you truly, bow you knee and honor Jesus, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD” or is it to the GLORY OF JESUS?
I do the following or at least try to. What about you?
- and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
- So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.
T8….you mean you can’t put it together, JESUS said unto him (now notice exactly how he used his name) blessed are you (Simon Barjona) because it was not flesh and blood that reavealed who JESUS WAS TO HIM, do you at least see that,so far, then he went on to say it was his FATHER who was in heaven who “reaveled” it unto him, right?, now we know that JESUS WAS FLESH AND BLOOD, SO IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN HIM, RIGHT? Then JESUS says to him (Simon Barjonia) , and i say “ALSO” UNTO YOU, (JESUS UNDERSTOOD BY THE SAME WAY, “REAVEALING PROCESS ALSO, that Simon Barjonia was actually PETER, BY THAT SAME REAVEALED KNOWLEDGE FROM God the Father, THAT showed JESUS WHO HE WAS also, “PETER”.
IT WAS ALL ABOUT REAVELING to him and his deciples by GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF, AND THAT (GOD THE FATHER), WAS THE “ROCK” THAT HE WOULD USE TO BUILD HIS CHURCH; and the gates of hell would not prevail against it.
It seems to me you seen unable to get the overall context about what Jesus was actually TALKING ABOUT, T8, Well your not alone brother.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene,
T8 already knows that you cannot have faith in Jesus Christ without faith in God and vise versa. The only difference you essentially have with him is what God and what Jesus you believe in. That is the same with many disagreements.
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22
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