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  • #362576
    GeneBalthrop
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    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,07:15)
    Gene,

    The children of the one true god are gods just as the children of a human are human.

    All it states is he “called” them gods, children of the most high, and if your read the first five books of the bible you will find that he did call the children of Israel the his children.


    Kerwin……All mankind are the creation of God, and are children of God, but they are not God beings. Yes he did call them God's (in a Possessive sense) Because if it were other wise then that would make God himself a Liar, not to mention Jesus also. Who said God the Father, was the “ONLY” TRUE GOD. Now I will also ask you the same question I asked Terricca and Mike , without any answered response from them.

    What does this scripture mean 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no Idol in the world and that there is “NO” God, but “ONE”.

    What many people do, is they switch the word God from upper case to Lower case lettering, but in fact All scripture was originally written in all UPPER Case lettering.   There is no such thing as a Little god and a Big GOD, The word God derives it's meaning from one source as i explained in the earlier post, and it can only be applied in that sense no matter what case lettering is used , there are No big God and Little gods. Why would God tell Moses he would be “AS” “God” to them , why use the word “AS”or “Like”,  if indeed he we already a true God>

    A Son of God is not a GOD because the meaning is not centered on a reproducing process at all. The word God is not Just POWER, is must also include, what a person worships and Trusts in, a faithful servitude and obedience to.

    We are told   do not put your “trust” in the sons of men for in the day they die their thoughts Parish. Kerwin a TRUE GOD, can requires Faith and “TRUST” IN>

    This whole question boils down to the absolute meaning of the Word GOD, and you simply can not have a God without “BOTH” meanings Present , POWER and FAITHFUL TRUST IN>

    If you were to read 2 Ths 2……you will find there is a man who sits in the temple of God being displayed as a GOD,  This man is called the “man of sin”. Why is that Kerwin, if a man is a “real” God, should he be call a “MAN” of Sin , why not instead of a “God of Sin? seeing you and some seem to believe in men being God's .

    A man presenting himself as a “god” should be no problem if what you, Mike, and Terricca, believe right?  That man of Sin mentioned in 2 Ths 2, is the Man Jesus being Present as a GOD , why because he is the only one who now sit in the temple of God from all human creation at this time, and he is presented “displayed” as a God right?, Which scripture say is a LIE.

    This is a FALSE “IMAGE” of HIM and that “FALSE IMAGE” is of a man being called and worshiped as a GOD. We are told it is a LIE, and all who do not love the truth, God would send unto them a deluding spirit in order for them to believe the LIE. What is that Lie Kerwin?,  is it not that a Man is a God.  All who believe there is more then ONE TRUE GOD have this Spirit of delusion sent from God working in them, because they do not Love the Truth, and the truth is there is “ONLY ONE TRUE GOD”>  IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene

    #362577
    terraricca
    Participant
    #362578
    kerwin
    Participant

    Gene,

    It is not the possessive sense to say those that live by the Spirit are the children of God.  Those that enter the new covenant are sired by God and conceived by his word.  They are the literal children of his Spirit.  Flesh is born of flesh and spirit is born of Spirit.  

    The flesh and soul of man is human and his children are human because they also bear the same type of flesh and soul but God is not flesh but instead he is spirit and his children are the spirit of his Spirit and not the flesh of his flesh.

    He is God and so his children are gods just as the children of a human are humans.   Being gods they are still human, even though they are not mere men.   There is but that is God and the source of all righteous things and that one God is the only being that it is loving to worship. He is one of a kind.

    These things can be hard to understand so take your time to mediate on them and ask God to reveal the truth to you.

    #362580
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,21:43)
    all

    Psalms 29:1 Click this icon to open a printer friendly page
    Context
    NET ©
    A psalm of David. Acknowledge the Lord, you heavenly beings, 2  acknowledge the Lord’s majesty and power! 3
    NIV ©
    A psalm of David. Ascribe to the LORD, O mighty ones, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength.
    NASB ©
    <> Ascribe to the LORD, O sons of the mighty, Ascribe to the LORD glory and strength.
    NLT ©
    <
    > Give honor to the LORD, you angels; give honor to the LORD for his glory and strength.
    MSG ©
    Bravo, GOD, bravo! Gods and all angels shout, “Encore!”
    BBE ©
    Give to the Lord, you sons of the gods, give to the Lord glory and strength.
    NRSV ©
    Ascribe to the LORD, O heavenly beings, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength.
    NKJV ©
    <
    > Give unto the LORD, O you mighty ones, Give unto the LORD glory and strength.

    BBE ©
    Give to the Lord, you sons of the gods, give to the Lord glory and strength.

    this is the true translation from the HEBREW TEXT


    T,

    Are you asking which one is technically the most accurate or which one or ones are true?

    #362582
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,21:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 24 2013,21:43)
    all

    Psalms 29:1 Click this icon to open a printer friendly page
    Context
    NET ©
    A psalm of David. Acknowledge the Lord, you heavenly beings, 2  acknowledge the Lord’s majesty and power! 3
    NIV ©
    A psalm of David. Ascribe to the LORD, O mighty ones, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength.
    NASB ©
    <> Ascribe to the LORD, O sons of the mighty, Ascribe to the LORD glory and strength.
    NLT ©
    <
    > Give honor to the LORD, you angels; give honor to the LORD for his glory and strength.
    MSG ©
    Bravo, GOD, bravo! Gods and all angels shout, “Encore!”
    BBE ©
    Give to the Lord, you sons of the gods, give to the Lord glory and strength.
    NRSV ©
    Ascribe to the LORD, O heavenly beings, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength.
    NKJV ©
    <
    > Give unto the LORD, O you mighty ones, Give unto the LORD glory and strength.

    BBE ©
    Give to the Lord, you sons of the gods, give to the Lord glory and strength.

    this is the true translation from the HEBREW TEXT


    T,

    Are you asking which one is technically the most accurate or which one or ones are true?


    k

    this verse in bold is the right translation ,from the Hebrew text

    I do not know why the others did not translating it differently ,

    may be they were bias ???

    #362646
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    Jews are bias,they are promoting their own messiah.
    Not the christian Messiah.

    wakeup.

    #362650
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,02:44)
    Gene,

    It is not the possessive sense to say those that live by the Spirit are the children of God.  Those that enter the new covenant are sired by God and conceived by his word.  They are the literal children of his Spirit.  Flesh is born of flesh and spirit is born of Spirit.  

    The flesh and soul of man is human and his children are human because they also bear the same type of flesh and soul but God is not flesh but instead he is spirit and his children are the spirit of his Spirit and not the flesh of his flesh.

    He is God and so his children are gods just as the children of a human are humans.   Being gods they are still human, even though they are not mere men.   There is but that is God and the source of all righteous things and that one God is the only being that it is loving to worship. He is one of a kind.

    These things can be hard to understand so take your time to mediate on them and ask God to reveal the truth to you.


    Kerwin…….Your logic on this i believe does not fit, let me explain,  Man has always had Spirit from God in him that is exactly how Adam became a living soul and it (the Spirit from God) is in every man , There is a scripture that says if God were to retract His spirit all flesh would cease to exist. So, Having Gods spirit in you, does not make you a God of any kind IMO.  

    While the Holy Spirit does increase a man perceptions and gives him more likeness of Yahweh “OUR GOD'S” mind, it in no way Makes him a GOD. Spirits are (INTELLECTS) from GOD given to us , the Power of a GOD is not, God reserves the Power to himself Alone.  His Spirit helps us to IMAGE HIM, but in no way makes us a God.  

    Remember this Kerwin, the sum of scriptures is the Truth found, not is just parts of it, Scripture can not contradict scripture, that is one of the clues for us to use in seeking the truth on matters.  

    If God tells us there are NO other Gods , he looked and found None, and said He alone was God. If Jesus in prayer said thou art, the “ONLY” “TRUE” God, then obviously all others are NOT “TRUE” GOD'S, Right?, and if 1 Cor 8:4 tells us the there is No God in the world But ONE.  You can not throw those scriptures out as if they do not exist right?. Like Terricca and Mike do, they just ignore those scriptures as if they are not even in their Bibles,

    Mike says they are not “Emphatic” words, that is his way around God's very own words not to mention Jesus' and Paul's. Terricca, the fox, just follows his wolf mentor, around yapping, trying to convince people he knows what he is talking about, accusing others of not knowing the truth,  He is good at dodging the truth like his Wolf Mentor.

    Neither of them can answer the scripture i post to them . We know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” God , but “ONE”. Can you answer that scripture and still believe in others existing God's. All Scripture MUST ALINE to be Truth Kerwin.

    Kerwin go to the Jeff Beaner, Hebrew wed site, and look up the original pictorial word for GOD there, and remember if something does not fit that description of the Word then it can't be a God of any kind.

    peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

    #362651
    942767
    Participant

    All men are God's creatures, but no, they are not children of God unless they have born again.

    Those in the OT that were obedient to God were considered children, and they will be born again when the Lord comes for the church.

    This is what the scriptures state:

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    1Jo 3:6

    Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

    1Jo 3:7

    Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

    1Jo 3:8

    He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

    1Jo 3:9

    Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    1Jo 3:10

    In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #362693
    Wakeup
    Participant

    GeneB, and Marty have spoken with wisdom.

    How do we know that we have the truth and nothing but the truth?
    If we can teach without contradicting any scriptures;then we know that we have the whole truth.
    All scriptures,old and new,if understood correctly will give us
    a picture of God's whole plan on earth.
    If this is achieved; we should jump for joy,for the Holy spirit has revealed it to us.

    If there are still things not well understood,we need to be humble enough to inquire of each other.
    For this will be fruitful. Doctrines of the past are to be put aside,for they are a stumbling block.

    It is a joy to read good posts with wisdom and truth.

    Greetings to you guys from wakeup.

    #362700
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup……..Thanks, I agree with you, all Scripture must line to be Truthful, if there seems to be a contradiction, then we must look intently to see how they can line with each other. Kerwin is good at putting them together and adjust his thinking, he has in the past, he is a true seeker of the truth, IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………..gene

    #362829
    terraricca
    Participant

    Marty

    Quote
    All men are God's creatures, but no, they are not children of God unless they have born again.

    the fact that we are still the children of God is shown by the fact that God send his son to save us ,being born again as nothing to do with it ,but is only the way to be reconciled with our God and creator ,and born again mean born in line with God's way and righteous way,nothing else,

    some try to make i a doctrine and a ritual but that would be wrong

    #362838
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Nov. 26 2013,03:48)
    All men are God's creatures, but no, they are not children of God unless they have born again.

    Those in the OT that were obedient to God were considered children, and they will be born again when the Lord comes for the church.

    This is what the scriptures state:

    Quote

    1Jo 3:6

    Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

    1Jo 3:7

    Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

    1Jo 3:8

    He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

    1Jo 3:9

    Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    1Jo 3:10

    In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty.

    When was Jesus born again?

    wakeup.

    #362930
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,14:50)
    T.

    Jews are bias,they are promoting their own messiah.
    Not the christian Messiah.

    wakeup.


    W

    Not all Jews where bias ,

    #362959
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,15:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,14:50)
    T.

    Jews are bias,they are promoting their own messiah.
    Not the christian Messiah.

    wakeup.


    W

    Not all Jews where bias ,


    T.

    The rabbies are bias towards their own messiah.
    and they are the translators.
    Think about it. Its like having the fox in charge of the chickens.

    wakeup.

    #362974
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,02:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,15:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,14:50)
    T.

    Jews are bias,they are promoting their own messiah.
    Not the christian Messiah.

    wakeup.


    W

    Not all Jews where bias ,


    T.

    The rabbies are bias towards their own messiah.
    and they are the translators.
    Think about it. Its like having the fox in charge of the chickens.

    wakeup.


    King James Version
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    For other uses, see King James Version (disambiguation).
    King James Version
    The title page's central text is:”THE HOLY BIBLE,Conteyning the Old Testament,AND THE NEW:Newly Translated out of the Originall tongues: & with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, by his Majesties speciall Comandement.Appointed to be read in Churches.Imprinted at London by Robert Barker, Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie.ANNO DOM. 1611 .”At bottom is:”C. Boel fecit in Richmont.”.

    The title page to the 1611 first edition of the Authorized Version Bible by Cornelis Boel shows the Apostles Peter and Paul seated centrally above the central text, which is flanked by Moses and Aaron. In the four corners sit Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, authors of the four gospels, with their symbolic animals. The rest of the Apostles (with Judas facing away) stand around Peter and Paul. At the very top is the Tetragrammaton “יהוה”.
    Abbreviation:KJV or AV
    Complete Bible published:1611
    Read online:King James Version at Wikisource
    Textual basis:NT: Textus Receptus, similar to the Byzantine text-type; some readings derived from the Vulgate. OT: Masoretic Text with Septuagint influence.[citation needed] Apocrypha: Septuagint and Vulgate.
    Reading level:US and Canada Grade 8–10[1]
    Copyright status:Public domain due to age, publication restrictions in the United Kingdom
    (See Copyright status)
    Genesis 1:1–3[show]
    John 3:16[show]
    The King James Version (KJV), commonly known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England begun in 1604 and completed in 1611.[2] First printed by the King's Printer Robert Barker,[3][4] this was the third translation into English to be approved by the English Church authorities. The first was the Great Bible commissioned in the reign of King Henry VIII, and the second was the Bishops' Bible of 1568.[5] In January 1604, King James I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans,[6] a faction within the Church of England.[7]

    King James I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans,[6] a faction within the Church of England.[7]

    READ VERY CAREFULLY THE BOLTED SECTION AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF MEN TRANSLATED THE ” KJV” AND IF THEY WERE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE JEWS THAT TRANSLATED THE SCRIPTURES AND THOSE THAT DID THE “NIV” OR THE “NET BIBLE ”

    #362979
    journey42
    Participant

    terraricca,Dec. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    READ VERY CAREFULLY THE BOLTED SECTION AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF MEN TRANSLATED THE  ” KJV” AND IF THEY WERE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE JEWS THAT TRANSLATED THE SCRIPTURES AND THOSE THAT DID   THE “NIV” OR THE “NET BIBLE ”

    Pierre,

    If you want us to go into the backgrounds and judge what type of characters translated the scriptures, both old and modern, then this would be fun for us especially, but in reality would not profit us.

    Lets just look at this for now.  This is not judging their character, but what happened to them.  

    quote
    5 MODERN VERSION EDITORS LOST THEIR VOICES
    “To add to the confusion, 5 Modern Version Editors (which used the Minority Text) lost their voices. Was this a co-incidence? Or could it have been the judgement of God for taking away from the Word of God?

    – First there was Tregelles where David Schaff write of him “He was scarcely able to speak audibly” (p246).

    – Then there was Wescott whose biographer writes that in 1858 “he was quite inaudible” and by 1870 “his voice reached few and was understood by still fewer” (Westcott, Vol 1, p198/272).

    – Then there was Philip Schaff himself (ASV/NASV) and his son write “Even as early as 1854 his voice was so affected that he could not speak in public so as to be heard……by1892 the power of speech had gone” (David Schaff “The Life of Philip Schaff, 1897, pp171/446).

    – Then there was J B PHillips who tells in his own autobiography “I was doind a fair measure of speaking in schools and churches until the late summer of 1961. And then quite suddenly my speaking, writing and communication power stopped” (The Price of Success, p163)

    – Finally there was Kenneth Taylor (Living Bible) where “Time Magazine” 1972 reports “Mysteriously half way through the paraphrase Taylor lost his voice and still speaks in a hoarse whisper”.(DIED IN 2005)

    I could understand that just two or three might be a co-incidence: but five men? It just makes me think that's all. I'm not saying one way or another.”
    http://www.av1611.org/voice2.html

    #362986
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 02 2013,05:59)

    terraricca,Dec. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    READ VERY CAREFULLY THE BOLTED SECTION AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF MEN TRANSLATED THE  ” KJV” AND IF THEY WERE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE JEWS THAT TRANSLATED THE SCRIPTURES AND THOSE THAT DID   THE “NIV” OR THE “NET BIBLE ”

    Pierre,

    If you want us to go into the backgrounds and judge what type of characters translated the scriptures, both old and modern, then this would be fun for us especially, but in reality would not profit us.

    Lets just look at this for now.  This is not judging their character, but what happened to them.  

    quote
    5 MODERN VERSION EDITORS LOST THEIR VOICES
    “To add to the confusion, 5 Modern Version Editors (which used the Minority Text) lost their voices. Was this a co-incidence? Or could it have been the judgement of God for taking away from the Word of God?

    – First there was Tregelles where David Schaff write of him “He was scarcely able to speak audibly” (p246).

    – Then there was Wescott whose biographer writes that in 1858 “he was quite inaudible” and by 1870 “his voice reached few and was understood by still fewer” (Westcott, Vol 1, p198/272).

    – Then there was Philip Schaff himself (ASV/NASV) and his son write “Even as early as 1854 his voice was so affected that he could not speak in public so as to be heard……by1892 the power of speech had gone” (David Schaff “The Life of Philip Schaff, 1897, pp171/446).

    – Then there was J B PHillips who tells in his own autobiography “I was doind a fair measure of speaking in schools and churches until the late summer of 1961. And then quite suddenly my speaking, writing and communication power stopped” (The Price of Success, p163)

    – Finally there was Kenneth Taylor (Living Bible) where “Time Magazine” 1972 reports “Mysteriously half way through the paraphrase Taylor lost his voice and still speaks in a hoarse whisper”.(DIED IN 2005)

    I could understand that just two or three might be a co-incidence: but five men? It just makes me think that's all. I'm not saying one way or another.”
    http://www.av1611.org/voice2.html


    j42

    you have mised my point ,at not one point there was only one man implicated in the translation of the scriptures (he could supervise it at best )

    but my point was that all translators where men, with their particular bias views within their own powers ,and believes

    and so all the translations have suffer from it

    #363025
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2013,09:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,02:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,15:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,14:50)
    T.

    Jews are bias,they are promoting their own messiah.
    Not the christian Messiah.

    wakeup.


    W

    Not all Jews where bias ,


    T.

    The rabbies are bias towards their own messiah.
    and they are the translators.
    Think about it. Its like having the fox in charge of the chickens.

    wakeup.


    King James Version
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    For other uses, see King James Version (disambiguation).
    King James Version
    The title page's central text is:”THE HOLY BIBLE,Conteyning the Old Testament,AND THE NEW:Newly Translated out of the Originall tongues: & with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, by his Majesties speciall Comandement.Appointed to be read in Churches.Imprinted at London by Robert Barker, Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie.ANNO DOM. 1611 .”At bottom is:”C. Boel fecit in Richmont.”.

    The title page to the 1611 first edition of the Authorized Version Bible by Cornelis Boel shows the Apostles Peter and Paul seated centrally above the central text, which is flanked by Moses and Aaron. In the four corners sit Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, authors of the four gospels, with their symbolic animals. The rest of the Apostles (with Judas facing away) stand around Peter and Paul. At the very top is the Tetragrammaton “יהוה”.
    Abbreviation:KJV or AV
    Complete Bible published:1611
    Read online:King James Version at Wikisource
    Textual basis:NT: Textus Receptus, similar to the Byzantine text-type; some readings derived from the Vulgate. OT: Masoretic Text with Septuagint influence.[citation needed] Apocrypha: Septuagint and Vulgate.
    Reading level:US and Canada Grade 8–10[1]
    Copyright status:Public domain due to age, publication restrictions in the United Kingdom
    (See Copyright status)
    Genesis 1:1–3[show]
    John 3:16[show]
    The King James Version (KJV), commonly known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England begun in 1604 and completed in 1611.[2] First printed by the King's Printer Robert Barker,[3][4] this was the third translation into English to be approved by the English Church authorities. The first was the Great Bible commissioned in the reign of King Henry VIII, and the second was the Bishops' Bible of 1568.[5] In January 1604, King James I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans,[6] a faction within the Church of England.[7]

    King James I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans,[6] a faction within the Church of England.[7]

    READ VERY CAREFULLY THE BOLTED SECTION AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF MEN TRANSLATED THE  ” KJV” AND IF THEY WERE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE JEWS THAT TRANSLATED THE SCRIPTURES AND THOSE THAT DID   THE “NIV” OR THE “NET BIBLE ”


    T.

    The king james was tranlated by king James learned men.
    Not the antichrist rabbies.

    wakeup.

    #363054
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,05:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2013,09:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,02:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,15:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,14:50)
    T.

    Jews are bias,they are promoting their own messiah.
    Not the christian Messiah.

    wakeup.


    W

    Not all Jews where bias ,


    T.

    The rabbies are bias towards their own messiah.
    and they are the translators.
    Think about it. Its like having the fox in charge of the chickens.

    wakeup.


    King James Version
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    For other uses, see King James Version (disambiguation).
    King James Version
    The title page's central text is:”THE HOLY BIBLE,Conteyning the Old Testament,AND THE NEW:Newly Translated out of the Originall tongues: & with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, by his Majesties speciall Comandement.Appointed to be read in Churches.Imprinted at London by Robert Barker, Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie.ANNO DOM. 1611 .”At bottom is:”C. Boel fecit in Richmont.”.

    The title page to the 1611 first edition of the Authorized Version Bible by Cornelis Boel shows the Apostles Peter and Paul seated centrally above the central text, which is flanked by Moses and Aaron. In the four corners sit Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, authors of the four gospels, with their symbolic animals. The rest of the Apostles (with Judas facing away) stand around Peter and Paul. At the very top is the Tetragrammaton “יהוה”.
    Abbreviation:KJV or AV
    Complete Bible published:1611
    Read online:King James Version at Wikisource
    Textual basis:NT: Textus Receptus, similar to the Byzantine text-type; some readings derived from the Vulgate. OT: Masoretic Text with Septuagint influence.[citation needed] Apocrypha: Septuagint and Vulgate.
    Reading level:US and Canada Grade 8–10[1]
    Copyright status:Public domain due to age, publication restrictions in the United Kingdom
    (See Copyright status)
    Genesis 1:1–3[show]
    John 3:16[show]
    The King James Version (KJV), commonly known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England begun in 1604 and completed in 1611.[2] First printed by the King's Printer Robert Barker,[3][4] this was the third translation into English to be approved by the English Church authorities. The first was the Great Bible commissioned in the reign of King Henry VIII, and the second was the Bishops' Bible of 1568.[5] In January 1604, King James I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans,[6] a faction within the Church of England.[7]

    King James I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans,[6] a faction within the Church of England.[7]

    READ VERY CAREFULLY THE BOLTED SECTION AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF MEN TRANSLATED THE  ” KJV” AND IF THEY WERE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE JEWS THAT TRANSLATED THE SCRIPTURES AND THOSE THAT DID   THE “NIV” OR THE “NET BIBLE ”


    T.

    The king james was tranlated by king James learned men.
    Not the antichrist rabbies.

    wakeup.


    w

    no, by the Puritans,[6] a faction within the Church of England.[

    #363557
    terraricca
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    are not the Anglican Puritans equal to the Doctors of the law and the Rabbis ???

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