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- March 22, 2016 at 1:43 pm#810835NickHassanParticipant
Hi t8,
It is to be hoped that you too will be given the anointing.
Unity is in the Spirit.
March 22, 2016 at 2:07 pm#810838ProclaimerParticipantI am looking into this issue.
Good.
I ask you what day is “this day”?
Is it not the day that God sets his king upon his holy hill of Zion?
Yet I have set my king Upon my holy hill of Zion.
The king has to exist to be set upon the holy hill. Otherwise you would say, I have made you King by setting you on my holy hill.
If Trump is made the president of the US, then Trump has to exist first.
Nick believes it is when God stated “Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
Nick has always been right (in his own eyes), yet he has changed his stance substantially and he was just as right when he held his old view.
While Nick changeth much, the truth doesn’t change.
The truth is clear and declared by a holy angel to men.
Luke 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.Clearly Nick is wrong by decree of that holy angel of God. But Nick doesn’t believe that angel because he also rejects that Jesus was born the messiah.
What is amazing though is he actually believes he was born the Lord and that is good.
But that still leaves two out of three and that is not good.
March 22, 2016 at 2:12 pm#810839ProclaimerParticipantHi t8,
It is to be hoped that you too will be given the anointing.
Unity is in the Spirit.
Let’s dig a little deeper into your words Nick.
You seem to repeatedly infer that I have not the spirit. If so, that borders on blasphemy of the Spirit if you say the Spirit is not the Spirit or the Spirit is Satan.
Further, if I quote and believe scripture, that does not mean that I have NOT the Spirit of God. It is likely evidence of an opposite conclusion to that.
But the Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, so yes I believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh of course. Thus it is true that I by the biblical definition do not have the Spirit of Antichrist. So if you say or infer that I do not have the spirit, then you could be right because it depends on what spirit you are talking of. As I believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, then correct, I do not have the spirit of Antichrist.
This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
And this is my confession.
March 22, 2016 at 2:14 pm#810840NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Yes Jesus Christ was born if that is what you think the spiritual words mean.
Who said you were of the antichrist?
Not me.
March 22, 2016 at 2:16 pm#810841NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Do you believe that being able to learn and change is not a good thing what hope is there for you?
March 22, 2016 at 2:16 pm#810842ProclaimerParticipantIf you infer that I have not the spirit, then yes I do not have the spirit of Antichrist because I acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.
Of course, those under the influence of the Antichrist could actually think they were under the spirit of God. After all, deception is rife in this world.
March 22, 2016 at 2:21 pm#810843ProclaimerParticipantYes Jesus Christ was born if that is what you think the spiritual words mean.
And yes he was born as a man. So that is when he came in the flesh right?
Jesus Christ came in the flesh right?
And the angel was correct right, “For this day in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord”.
Right?
March 22, 2016 at 2:21 pm#810844NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
Your self belief is so strong that you denigrate and mock those who learn.
You need a better foundation.
March 22, 2016 at 2:23 pm#810845NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
No I do not think that coming in the flesh is the same as being born but you do.
And who can argue with you?
March 22, 2016 at 2:28 pm#810846NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
Does understanding the prophetic word just completely escape you?
Yet you rebuke those who are given the ability?
March 22, 2016 at 3:18 pm#810847NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
If coming in the flesh means born why does scripture use such strange concepts when there are easier ways to say it?
If it does not then you need to reassess your own situation.
March 22, 2016 at 3:40 pm#810848ProclaimerParticipantHi T8,
Do you believe that being able to learn and change is not a good thing what hope is there for you?
Nick these accusations have no basis apart from in your own mind where your understanding is.
You rely on that too much, and feel confident to condemn, accuse, and make inference that is not true.
If I give you a scripture, it is not true because I have delivered it, rather it is true because it is scripture regardless of who says it.
Try to remove the prejudices that motivate your writings here and just see what the scripture says and with an honest heart and mind, be transformed by that clear and certain word. e.g.,
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
Sure you could challenge me if these were my words, but they are not. They came from a holy messenger sent by God.
Who are you mere man to argue with the living God?
March 22, 2016 at 3:42 pm#810849NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
You cannot claim the backing of the Living God if your understandings are of men can you?
March 22, 2016 at 3:44 pm#810850ProclaimerParticipantBecause you can be born of a woman and/or born of God.
If it just said, Jesus Christ was born, then many could deny that he became a man and make doctrines that turn him into a spirit only. But is says, ‘come in the flesh’ and it also says, “existed in the form of God/ existed with divine nature. It is spelled out for us that he came from Heaven and is back in Heaven. We have no excuse to deny that Jesus Christ was born of a woman and is now with God in the glory he had with him before the world began. We also cannot deny that God made all things through him and he is now redeeming all things through him. He is the Lord and savior and all things will be made subject to him because he is the Lord.
Jesus became a man for us, so that we could be like him Nick. As he is now is the glory that he had before. And we too can participate in that.
These have been written down for us so we know what it is we are to believe.
March 22, 2016 at 3:59 pm#810851ProclaimerParticipantYou cannot claim the backing of the Living God if your understandings are of men can you?
This is true, but you reject the scriptures I give you and make out to me and others that the true spiritual meaning is the opposite of the clear meaning. For this reason I have exposed you.
The problem here is that you prefer to judge everyone else but yourself. This is a sign of self-righteousness. I am not saying you are self-righteous, I leave judgement to God, but I am saying that self-righteous people judge others but not themselves and you do this to me and others.
If you judged yourself correctly Nick, you would see that you are indeed rejecting many scriptures regarding who Jesus really is and are teaching the opposite because you rely on your own understanding instead of what the texts are conveying. In many instances, you hold an exact opposite view of what the scriptures actually say. In fact in many instances I can repeat the scripture and enter the word ‘NOT’ to arrive at your teachings regarding the Lord Jesus Christ.
We should not be so reckless in our teachings because teachers are judged more harshly. Further, we should never deny that Jesus Christ came in the flesh for this places us in the exact opposite spirit to God’s own Spirit. How can one be assured of his salvation if he denies that Jesus Christ came in the flesh?
This is a hard message, but a true one. You are free to reject it, but you cannot say that I did not tell you.
March 22, 2016 at 4:03 pm#810852ProclaimerParticipantDevious minds are abhorrent to the LORD, but those whose ways are innocent are his delight.
March 22, 2016 at 4:05 pm#810853ProclaimerParticipantSimon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
Notice that Peter declared this even before Jesus died to save humanity.
There is a lesson in that for those who teach that Jesus was not born as the Christ in Bethlehem.
If you have eyes you will see, if you have ears you will hear. If you are proud, you will fall.
March 22, 2016 at 4:11 pm#810854NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Expose away.
No devious minds around here.
Of course you must be sure you are standing on solid ground.
Are you sure you have the spiritual understanding of what is written?
March 22, 2016 at 4:13 pm#810855NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Yes he said it to the anointed Jesus.
Do you think he had to die first?
Must we believe he was already anointed when he was born or we are proud as well as deceived?
March 22, 2016 at 4:20 pm#810856NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
The problem is you cannot point to any prior anointing yet you claim divine privilege for stating it.
You also cannot explain why the anointing of God caused nothing to change in the man in the 30 years before the Jordan.
Are you saying he had to QUENCH THE SPIRIT for 30 years??
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