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Hi Dig4,
You asked if I believe that Yeshua was JUST A MAN.
Scripture tells us in many places that he was a man.
Acts 2.22
Men of Israel. Listen to these words.
Jesus the Nazarene, a MAN attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs
which God performed in your midst just as you yourselves know-this MAN,
delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God,
you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put him to death.
God blessed this man with His Spirit and did miracles through him.
The Son of MAN offers the only hope of your salvation.
Acts 4.12
And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.
Dig4truth. .ask yourself, why would God desguise himself as a man in the first place?, would it be to pull sham on us?, because if a God who is not tempted by sin, were to overcome sin, that would show human kind nothing, it would hardly be a example to us of overcommig, and would make him into a con artist.
But we know that Jesus is and was “Exactly” as we are, flesh and blood humans beings, who as we came into his “Existence” at birth, just like us, it dosent matter if God the Father supplied his male DNA, that no big thing for God to do, because he wanted Jesus to look a certain way.
When anyone turns Jesus into a GOD, HE OR SHE IS COMMITING A SIN, remember the first commandment?, “thou shall have “NO” other GOD besides ME, you shall make “No” “IMAGE” of me in heaven above or earth beneath.”
If you see Jesus as a GOD and worship him as such, that is IDOLATRY, and more, that image of him being a God in your mind, turns the true Jesus into a man of sin, 2 Ths2 because it breakes the first commandment.
These thing we are telling you may seen hard for you after so many years of false teahings by fallen christainty for well over 1700 hundred years now. But non the less we are tellibg you the truth, and time is very short now to get it straight in your mind, pray for the spirit of God to guide you brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
While it is clear that Jesus was born the messiah by confession of an angel of God, that is not the only testimony that contradicts Nick and Gene’s views on Jesus not being born the messiah and not being the messiah for most of his life. And we constantly hear from Nick that the Spirit leads us to all truth, thus he questions us about this because we believe what is written. Yet here we see a man who was actually led by the Spirit who had a confession similar to myself and others whom Nick and Gene contend are wrong. So this spirit that Nick talks about is an opposite spirit by the look of it. And is it no surprise that we read about the Antichrist spirit that denies that Jesus is the Christ.
And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.
And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
Boom. More proof of your false teaching Nick. Seriously, life is too short to teach false doctrine. We will all meet him soon and need to be prepared. I bet we will all wish for more time to allow improvement and perfection, so use our little time wisely is my advice.
Hi T8,
You stand on you misunderstanding of the prophetic word and deny the work of the Spirit
while calling others liars, deceivers and antichrists.
You are unable to tell us how you think the man Jesus existed before he was conceived of Mary in her womb.
You deny the anointing at the Jordan but are unable to tell us when Jesus was anointed.
Confusion on confusion.
I stand on these scriptures which is a more sure thing than your understanding and additions.
And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.
And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
Notice that the Spirit reveals this. Yet you say the Spirit reveals that he was not born the Christ. True, this is what you teach. Sad.
Yes. Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit we was shown God’s messiah, the one born the messiah and the Lord.
But under this other inspiration and some 200 years later a man from NZ says he wasn’t technically the messiah.
So which one is correct. Tough. I will have to think this through carefully.
Christ or Antichrist spirit.
I will need some time.
T8….The spirit of antichrist, is in those who do not believe Jesus had to be anointed and recieve the holy spirit, to become the messiah of God. When you say he was born the anointed, then you are also saying he did not have to be anointed brother, and that is the spirit of antichrist.
I am so glad you are rethinking this brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
They deny that Jesus is the Christ. You believe that Jesus is not the Christ because you teach that Jesus is the child/boy/man without the spirit. See that?
Hi Nick,
President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem?Yes or No ?
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God bless
Ed JHe cannot answer your question EdJ. He dodges that question by answering a different question.
All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
Let’s cut to the chase. Believers believe scripture, so the conclusion to draw is obvious.
Nick clearly fails this test. No amount of excuses will change that fact.
Hi T8,
You seem to be dead in the water.
Refusing to acknowledge deeper truth you just snipe at others.
Hi T8,
You claim to see what others cannot see?
But you always just pick the obvious logical meaning.
Scripture is spiritual and doesn’t serve the foolish wisdom of men.
You must be born again.
Ha ha. You are trying to wrestle these scriptures away from us and give us your words as replacements. The cheek. Let your yes be yes means that you should be able to answer in this manner regarding appropriate questions because we should be honest. Lawyers know that to avoid an incriminating question, you simply provide lots of detail to hide the true intention. It’s called a smokescreen by some.
The truth is, you fail to answer the most basic question about Jesus Christ being born in Bethlehem on that day. And that is because you deny he was the Christ. Simple as that and we all know what that means. You can’t pretend your way out of this and it is hard to fight reality. Drop the pride in your own spirituality and become like a young child, then you will be the greatest.
Nick: “You asked if I believe that Yeshua was JUST A MAN.”
Ok, how will you answer? You have supplied evidence that He was a man and here is no disagreement there, but the question was “just” a man. How do you answer that specific question? Just a man?
Gene: “But we know that Jesus is and was “Exactly” as we are, flesh and blood humans beings, who as we came into his “Existence” at birth, just like us, it dosent matter if God the Father supplied his male DNA, that no big thing for God to do, because he wanted Jesus to look a certain way.”
Came into existence at birth like us? Really?
John 17:5 Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
That doesn’t sound like us, does it?
Did we share God’s glory before we were even born? Because God does not and will not share His glory with another! Yet Yeshua before He was born in the flesh shared God’s glory with Him.
Again, does this sound like us?
Isa 42:8 I am the Lord, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.
It would appear that you are thinking too highly of yourself or too lowly of Yeshua.
Dig4truth. ……Jesus’ glory was a “prophesied” glory, that he “now” has, GO AND READ HEB 2: 6-11, and see if you can see any difference between Jesus’ present glory and our “prophesied” glory. When you have done that then get back to me and we can take it from there. It’s not a question of me belittling Jesus, it’s a question of you belittling mankind. JESUS said over 80 times he was a SON OF MAN, you either believe that or not, and if you truly believe that then you would not try to seperate him from his brothers and sisters.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
T8…..by preaching Jesus was born with the anointing spirit, and he was not baptized inorder to recieve it, then that put in the ranks of an anti-anointing, or ANTICHRIST person . What you are saying in effect is Jesus was not a true human being, who would need to be anointed with God’s spirit as we have to be. You also preach he prexisted as some kind of being other then a human being, so in conclusion, you deny his comming into existence “exactly” as we flesh and blood being do, then you deny that he, as we needed to be anointed after our berth.
That is exactly what the Gnostic’s of PAUL and JOHN’S day taught, they believed JESUS proceeded from the pelora of the Gods, and did not needed to be anointed by God because he was a God, and he was only desguised as a man, made to look like one of us humans. But what did John say, who ever dosen’t believe Jesus, came (that is into his existence) in the flesh is a Antichrist. Why, because the seperate him from the rest of mankind, by not believing he “as a man” had to be ANOINTED, WITH GOD’S SPIRIT, NOTICE I SAID “AS A “MAN”, YOUR VIEW DENIES HIS BAPTIZM AND RECIEVING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT “AS AN ADULT MAN, IT ALSO DENIES HIM COMMING INTO HIS “EXISTENCE” AT HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH.
T8….your views are simply another view of what the GNOSTIC’S believed and the apostle coined them as Antichrists. IT also SEPERATE S Jesus from his “exact” idenity with the rest of humanity. It simply is not true brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
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