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- March 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm#821592NickHassanParticipant
Hi Ed,
spin.
Do you deny that God was his father?
He was reborn at the Jordan just as you were.
March 12, 2018 at 4:33 pm#821593NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Disappointed that you have reverted to playing games to hide from truth.
I guess when you are an expert who produces teaching videos etc it is not easy to start again.
March 12, 2018 at 5:21 pm#821594NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Lk 1.34
..The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will we overshadow you,
AND FOR THAT REASON
the holy child shall be called
THE SON OF GOD.
You have lost touch with scriptural truth.
March 12, 2018 at 6:00 pm#821595NickHassanParticipantHi,
Stupid computer!
No WE in there.
March 12, 2018 at 6:07 pm#821596Ed JParticipantEDJ….THE ONLY THING THAT RAISED JESUS FROM THE GRAVE WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT HE RECIEVED AT HIS BAPTIZM.
Hi Gene,
Yes, I agree
“Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ,
and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)” (Gal 1:1)____________
God bless
Ed JMarch 12, 2018 at 6:25 pm#821597NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Are you saying that Jesus was anointed twice
once at the Jordan
and before his birth at some indeterminate time?
Or are you saying he was a heavenly spirit who came into a conceived body?
Rather fanciful ideas.
March 12, 2018 at 6:43 pm#821598Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
What I’m saying is we should look at the evidence,
and not listen to your added bias on the subject.____________
God bless
Ed JMarch 12, 2018 at 6:46 pm#821599Ed JParticipantWas Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem?
Yes or No
Gene?
Nick?March 12, 2018 at 9:53 pm#821600NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
see previous answer.
March 12, 2018 at 10:01 pm#821601NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
You see a child was born in Bethlehem.
Later he was named Jesus.
Later still he was anointed.
So prophetically Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem.
March 13, 2018 at 3:42 am#821602Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Was President Obama was born in Hawaii ?
Yes, unless he was really born in KenyaWas Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem?
Yes or No
____________
God bless
Ed JMarch 13, 2018 at 3:57 am#821603GeneBalthropParticipantEdj….Unto us (mankind) a child is “born”, unto us (mankind) a “son” is given. Jesus at berth was simply a human baby, “exactly” the same as us, he was not the Christ until he was anointed by God at the Jordan river, that is when the spirit from God the Father entered into him, just like it must us also indwell us inorder for us also to be raised from the grave.
If we view Jesus as different then us, then we are moving his idenity away from us and all mankind, as the trinitarians do, they call him and worship him as a God turning themselves into IDOLATERS. This false “IMAGE” OF JESUS, TURNS THE “IMAGE” OF HIM INTO the “Image” of A MAN OF SIN. 2THS 2.
REMEMBER the first commandment “you shall have no other God besides me”, you shall make no “IMAGE” of ME in heaven above or earth beneath.
Remember also what Jesus said, “many will come in my name SAYING I AM, AND DECIEVE MANY”, SO Jesus warned us that the great deception that caused the apostate churches to fall away, would be A “LIE” about him, it is crucial Edj, we see Jesus the right way, seeing Jesus the right way takes the Spirit of truth, which delievers us from all the confusion and deception that is in, so-called christanity.
Remember also what Jesus told us, Enter you in at the strait gate, “straight is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life and “few” there be that find it, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there be go in thereat therof”.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
March 13, 2018 at 6:11 am#821604NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
As President Obama was born in Hawaii the anointed Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
But just as Obama was yet to named or to become the president
Neither was the baby named or anointed.
March 13, 2018 at 6:59 am#821605NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Acts 2.22
Men of Israel, listen to these words;
Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs
which God performed through him in your midst, just as you yourselves know-
this man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God,
you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put him to death.
A MAN enabled to do the work of God by the anointing of God.
March 13, 2018 at 8:26 am#821606NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
The Holy Spirit was upon Simeon.
He said in Lk 2.34
Behold this child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel…
APPOINTED.
Yet to be anointed.
Lk.2.40
The child continued to grow and become strong, increasing in wisdom;
and the grace of God was upon him.
Grace.
Yet to be anointed
March 13, 2018 at 9:08 am#821607NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
You teach
JESUS FLESH WAS CONCEIVED IN MARY
So you see a division between the flesh and his soul and spirit?
Big call.
Again to you he is not a man like us.
No such division exists in the sons of Adam.
Seems a vastly different conception than that for other men.
And now to you it is not just the spirit that was birthed at Bethlehem but the soul as well?
March 13, 2018 at 11:04 am#821608GeneBalthropParticipantEdj….Listen to what Nick and I are telling you, we are telling you the truth brother. You must see Jesus as comming into his existence as a human being, just like you and all mankind. “Sense by man sin came into the world, by man it is atoined for”. I tell you Edj., you must come to see Jesus as we are, or his death would not have paid for our sins. Remember “Jesus is the first born of “MANY BRETHERN”.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
March 13, 2018 at 4:29 pm#821609NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
You are right Gene.
1cor 15.21
Since by a man came Death, by a man also came the resurrection from the dead.
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.
Jesus had to be a man to fulfill the plan of God, not a heavenly being in flesh.
The new creation includes only those who share the Spirit of Christ
March 14, 2018 at 9:26 am#821624Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem?Yes or No ?
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God bless
Ed JMarch 20, 2018 at 9:52 am#821759ProclaimerParticipantHi Ed,
As President Obama was born in Hawaii the anointed Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
But just as Obama was yet to named or to become the president
Neither was the baby named or anointed.
Let me interpret this for all to see. Nick basically said that neither was Jesus the Christ in the context of the child Jesus.
Let’s apply a simple acid test to see what spirit this is coming from:
for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.
I really wish for Nick’s sake he wasn’t motivated by this antichrist spirit, but he has demonstrated it and had to be called out.
Was Obama born to be the president, or did he get that office from a combination of choices he and other people made. Did Jesus become the Christ because of his own choice and the choice of other men? Nick has been exposed. Jesus was born the Christ. He was later baptized and his ministry of power and miracles began proving that was indeed the Christ. It didn’t prove that he had become the Christ as Nick teaches.
The antichrist spirit cannot help itself. It will confess to you one way or another that Jesus is not the Christ. It might concede that he is the Christ, but didn’t provide salvation for men in his name like Islam, it might say that his last few years he became a christ, or it might say that he is one of many christs, but it cannot say that Jesus was born the Christ in Bethlehem and was clothed with power from on high in the Jordan. That power he received was the Spirit of God descending in like manner a dove from whence he began his ministry proving indeed that he was that Christ.
A quick question to ponder. Is an apple tree an apple tree if it has not produced an apple yet? In context of Jesus, Nick is basically saying an apple tree becomes an apple tree upon producing the first apple. Even he knows this is wrong thinking.
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