The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[GeneBalthrop]

Edj….The difference is your presentations are not as accurate as hers, NOR as clearly presented as hers are. But then again she doesn’t use a secret code numbering system to derive answers from scriptures as you do or use too. LOL ☺

Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

[GeneBalthrop]

Edj….Go read this, Phil 4:8 and come back, and tell us what you think? By the way, the word praise means….(concretey a “commendable” thing), and I do believe her efforts in explaining things by many scriptures and indepth study, are “commendable” and therefore worthy of praise.

Why should it bother you, because i commend her, are you jealous because you arn’t able to expound scriptures as she does.

Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

[Ed J]

“But then again she doesn’t use a secret code numbering system to derive answers from scriptures…”

Hi Gene,

Neither do I

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God bless
Ed J

[GeneBalthrop]

Edj…..as i recall you did at one time anyway. Did you take time to read the scripture I posted for you?

Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

[Ed J]

Did you take time to read the scripture I posted for you?

Yes Gene,

it has nothing to do with praising people for their works.

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God bless
Ed J

[Proclaimer]

God is Spirit and God is holy.

The Holy Spirit is God’s own spirit.

All spirits come from the Father of spirits.

[Proclaimer]

God is holy and he is spirit.

The Holy Spirit.

If the Holy Spirit is another person, then there are two Holy Spirits.

Polytheism.

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@edj

HolySpirit is GOD: The Father of Jesus Christ

I think you believe differently now Edj. Please explain.

[Ed J]

HolySpirit is GOD: The Father of Jesus Christ

Hi T8, why would I believe differently from what the bible teaches ???

According to Luke 1:35 The HolySpirit impregnates Mary, making the HolySpirit Jesus father…

“And the angel answered and said unto her, The HolySpirit shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy
thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:35)

…and the text goes on to say that Jesus shall be called the Son of God,
which makes his Father “The HolySpirit” GOD.

And in case you don’t believe “The HolySpirit” is GOD, Acts 5:3-4 verifies that “The HolySpirit” is GOD…

“But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HolySpirit,
and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it
not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou
conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.” (Acts 5:3-4)

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God bless
Ed J

[Proclaimer]

Okay that is all good. But I thought you were saying elsewhere that the Holy Spirit is the Word of God.

[Ed J]

Okay that is all good. But I thought you were saying elsewhere that the Holy Spirit is the Word of God.

Hi T8,

The Holy Spirit is the Word of God.

Jesus said: in John 6:63 that the words are “Spirit” – there fore “The Word” is “The Spirit”…

“For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but
“The Word” of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.” (Heb 7:28 (KJV)

“The Word” is Jesus’ Father as “The Word” maketh the son.

The HolySpirit maketh the son
“The Word” maketh the son

The HolySpirit is “The Word”

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God bless
Ed J

[Proclaimer]

So the Word of God is not Jesus Christ.

Jesus is the name of the Christ and he is of course Jesus.

He is also called the Word of God, but he is not the Word of God.

So the Holy Spirit will come on a horse, not the son of God.

And the sword of the Spirit is also the Word of God. So both the Spirit and the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God.

Sorry Ed J, I’m not buying it. It’s very messy and illogical. The picture you paint is full of holes.

[Ed J]

So the Holy Spirit will come on a horse, not the son of God.

Bingo!

[Ed J]

And the sword of the Spirit is also the Word of God. So both the Spirit and the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God.

Here you’re disagreeing with what you know to be true. How so you might ask?

1. We know “The Word” is riding on a white horse.
2. And asword is coming out of the mouth of “The Word”
3. And we know the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God
4. Thus “The Word” (a the sword) is coming out of “The Word”

Which makes your statement therefore true:

Both the Spirit and the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God.

[Ed J]

Sorry Ed J, I’m not buying it. It’s very messy and illogical. The picture you paint is full of holes.

Hi T8,

Then expose the holes.

That’s what I do when I disagree with someone

[Ed J]

So the Word of God is not Jesus Christ.

That’s right…

Jesus said:”The Word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me” (John 14:24)

My words are me.

Are your words your son?

Sorry T8, I’m not buying it. It’s very messy and illogical. The picture you paint is full of holes.

…AND I have exposed the holes!

[Proclaimer]

I made an assessment that the whole thing is messy and further that the Holy Spirit doesn’t ride horses or land on animals. The Spirit indwells and comes upon people.

So I think in order to make your case, you are the one who needs to prove it because it is not written.

When a person floats a theory it at least has to make sense when you hear it. If it does, you then dig further. But if it doesn’t make sense, then you likely just brush it off. Time is important and you don’t want to waste it after all.

Further, God made all things through the Word. But God made all things through the Son and Jesus Christ.

So God made all things through 3, 2, or 1?

And the fact that you say the Holy Spirit is the Word of God when the scripture says that the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God. That is a discrepancy right there.

[Ed J]

And the fact that you say the Holy Spirit is the Word of God when the scripture says that the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God. That is a discrepancy right there.

Hi T8,

What is “the sword” coming out of The Word’s mouth in rev. 19:15 if not “The Word”?

This is a serious question, please don’t just blow it off

[Proclaimer]

The Word of God is a person. The sword is the word which is an attribute.

Jesus is indwelt by the same Spirit we are or should be.

Making Jesus the Holy Spirit is connecting dots that shouldn’t be connected.

Once again, confusion over identity and nature.

Heaven Net would almost not be needed if there was no confusion over identity and nature.

[Ed J]

As you told me on the other thread…

That is as clear as mud.

We can dialog at least, and perhaps clear up the water of “The Word” a bit

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“And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.” (Rev 22:1)

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