The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[terraricca]

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ARE YOU GUY'S HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION ABOUT NOTHING

BOTH OF YOU DO NOT MAKE SENS ;SO FOLLOW THE TOPIC ;IF YOU KNOW TELL IT IF YOU GOT IT WRONG CHANGE YOUR VIEW AND UNDERSTANDING BUT DO NOT CHANGE THE TOPIC FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL GAIN

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
They have not come into the kingdom despite the pleas of the Father.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2014,23:30)

Hi WU, They have not come into the kingdom despite the pleas of the Father.

NICK

SO IT IS FOR YOU ,DO NOT TALK FOR OTHERS SHARE WHAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED NOT WHAT OTHER MAY OR MAY NOT RECEIVE,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Come down from your high place and dialogue with us.

[Ed J]

Q)Who really is the Holy Spirit?

A) God

“But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HolySpirit,
 and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?
 and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this
 thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.”  (Acts 5:3-4)

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You are comfortable with the idea that the Father spoke by His Spirit through Jesus.
That is verified in scripture and we are told that when we go before the court the Father will speak through us.

But you rightly found that some of the bold sayings made by Jesus were not of the Spirit of the Father.

Those sayings such as in Jn 6 and 8 if taken at face value would mean that a man came from heaven.
You currently take them at face value but should you?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Jesus identified the Spirit of the Father as the Spirit of truth-ANOTHER COMFORTER.
Not the same as THE COMFORTER also spoken of in Jn 14

We know that The Spirit is one
We know that the Father will send Jesus.[acts3]
We also know that now the Lord is the Spirit.

So the Father and the Son can fellowship with us in the one Spirit.[1 jn1, 2 jn9]
'We will come to you”

The only question left for you is whether or not Jesus was different to us and his fellowship was only with the Father in Spirit.
If that was the case only the Father could speak through Jesus by the Spirit.

I offer that Jesus was exactly as we are and he too could fellowship with God and as one with the Word
and that the Word could speak though him too as a servant Spirit to God

You may not agree

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[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Was the Spirit of Christ in the prophets?

Was Jesus a prophet?

Was the Spirit of Christ IN Christ?

[terraricca]

Nick

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So the Father and the Son can fellowship with us in the one Spirit.[1 jn1, 2 jn9] 'We will come to you”

so they both will come to anyone that believe how physically or

1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.

2Jn 1:7 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.
2Jn 1:9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

are you not an Antichrist according to John because you do not believe that CHRIST CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND THAT HE CAME IN THE FLESH

AND SO VERSE 9 APPLY TO YOU NOT TO ME OR MIKE WE BOTH ACCEPT THAT AND TRULY BELIEVE IT

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
From the Jordan the history of Jesus is the history of the Spirit.
They are truly one.

Jesus Christ came in the flesh

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,03:40)

Hi T, From the Jordan the history of Jesus is the history of the Spirit. They are truly one. Jesus Christ came in the flesh

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NO,THE SPIRIT ARE THE PROPHECY ,THE REALITY HIS CHRIST ,

JUST LIKE WHEN YOUR PARENTS WHERE TALKING ABOUT TO HAVE A CHILD THAT WAS THE SPIRIT ,WHEN YOU CAME ALONG THIS WAS REALITY ,BECAUSE NOW THE SPIRIT (INTENTION) CAME TO BE A REALITY ,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
So Spirit means intention to you?
Do you study scripture?

[NickHassan]

Hi,
They are so truly one that John can say this about Jesus
1Jn 1
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,03:50)

Hi T, So Spirit means intention to you? Do you study scripture?

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some time it does ,but you would not understand ,you rather stick to what men teaches you ,

intention/will/desire/

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,04:04)

Hi, They are so truly one that John can say this about Jesus 1Jn 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

N

right on;so is ; Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jn 1:15 John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

Jn 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Jn 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,who is at the Father’s side , has made him known

Rev 1:2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Lk 24:26 Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?”GLORY ;SIT AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD HIS FATHER

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The wonderful WORD shown in the man Jesus

[NickHassan]

Hi,
God is Spirit
The Word is Spirit.
the Word was with God and was God.

“Jn 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father’s side , has made him known”

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,04:22)

Hi, God is Spirit The Word is Spirit. the Word was with God and was God. “Jn 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father’s side , has made him known”

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and who was at the father side as per John

[NickHassan]

hi T,
the Word

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,04:34)

hi T, the Word

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YES AND HIS NAME IS ;JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD ,

Col 1:15 He(JESUS CHRIST) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

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