The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[terraricca]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 05 2011,12:02)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2011,12:51) what you think of possessing is of little value ,but what glory do you bring to the Lord by ignoring yours ,there is value. Man you make no sense to me. WJ

WJ

I know you would not understand .

and what else you do not understand in scriptures ??

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 02 2011,07:35)

Is this not a free for all thread? There is a debate thread you know. Here is the scripture you requested. Phl 2:5 ¶ Let this “”mind”” be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:   Also 1Cr 2:11   For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.   What is it that helps a child to understand things as it grows up, is it his mind? is it his spirit? or maybe both? If your mind is not your spirit, then what are they? Georg

Hi Georg,

Of course this is a free for all thread.  Which means that Ed and I were FREE to discuss SPIRITS as we wished WITHOUT you spouting off and implying neither of us know anything.  It wasn't that you joined in the conversation – I welcome that.  It was the way you came in downgrading us as if we were idiots that I objected to.  Who are YOU that I should just believe you?

I asked for a scripture that says our spirit is our mind.  You haven't shown one that says that at all.

And your own words “maybe both” confirms to me that YOU don't really KNOW any more about it than I do.  You have understood it a certain way, and that's fine.  Who knows, you may even be right.

But you have not been SCRIPTURALLY PROVEN to be right, have you?

ps  What did you think about my point?  Do you think the thing that men's evil thoughts come from is the same thing that comes directly from God, and goes back to God when we die?  Does that make sense that the spirit God gives each of us to live is the SOURCE of our evil thoughts?  

mike

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2011,14:52)

Mike i beleive georg is right but you also have to had the hearth to it,

Hi Pierre,

I'm sorry my friend, but I can't make heads or tails out of your post.

peace and love,
mike

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2011,20:52)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2011,14:52) Mike i beleive georg is right but you also have to had the hearth to it, Hi Pierre, I'm sorry my friend, but I can't make heads or tails out of your post.   peace and love, mike

Mike

Georg said that the soul is the mind ,right and i said true but not without the hearth deepest thoughts,this is your complete soul without flesh.

ps;it is because i keep the answer going from others ,

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2011,13:58)

ps;it is because i keep the answer going from others ,

Well, that one got over me, too!

[Ed J]

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,21:11)

edj

[thehappyman]

provoke not one another into sin (anger)

[Ed J]

Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31)

provoke not one another into sin (anger)

Hi HappyMan,

Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 05 2011,19:31)

provoke not one another into sin (anger)

Thankyou!

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,21:11)

Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31) provoke not one another into sin (anger) Hi HappyMan, Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'?

ED

I thought you said we were brothers? Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Paul said not to provoke one another!

WJ

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,07:39)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2011,21:11) Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31) provoke not one another into sin (anger) Hi HappyMan, Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'? ED I thought you said we were brothers? Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Paul said not to provoke one another! WJ

Hi WJ,

We are brothers! What's your point?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[theodorej]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2011,13:11)

Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31) provoke not one another into sin (anger) Hi HappyMan, Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No !! ED he challendged their piety and showed them their Hypocricy, this provoked their IRE and resulted in his prophesised demise..

[Ed J]

Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 08 2011,12:19)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2011,13:11) Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31) provoke not one another into sin (anger) Hi HappyMan, Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No !! ED he challendged their piety and showed them their Hypocricy, this provoked their IRE and resulted in his prophesised demise..

Hi Theodore J,

You have proved my point!
One CANNOT make another 'angry'!
Anger is derived inside oneself (based on unfulfilled expectations).

James 1:20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
Col.1:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice,
blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Phil.4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want:
for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[theodorej]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2011,12:37)

Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 08 2011,12:19) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2011,13:11) Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31) provoke not one another into sin (anger) Hi HappyMan, Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No !! ED he challendged their piety and showed them their Hypocricy, this provoked their IRE and resulted in his prophesised demise.. Hi Theodore J, You have proved my point! One CANNOT make another 'angry'! Anger is derived inside oneself (based on unfulfilled expectations). James 1:20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. Col.1:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Phil.4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Greetings Ed….. Anger is a manefestation of ones Ego and selfishness…Some people are so selfish that they are hostile…vengence draws its power from the same root…

[Ed J]

Hi Theodore J,

That is why we must kill the ego. (Matt.10:39 / John 12:25)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Baker]

Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31)

provoke not one another into sin (anger)

Yes, thank you…..

[Baker]

Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 08 2011,23:31)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2011,12:37) Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 08 2011,12:19) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2011,13:11) Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2011,11:31) provoke not one another into sin (anger) Hi HappyMan, Did Jesus provoke the Pharisees to 'anger'? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No !! ED he challendged their piety and showed them their Hypocricy, this provoked their IRE and resulted in his prophesised demise.. Hi Theodore J, You have proved my point! One CANNOT make another 'angry'! Anger is derived inside oneself (based on unfulfilled expectations). James 1:20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. Col.1:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Phil.4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Greetings Ed….. Anger is a manefestation of ones Ego and selfishness…Some people are so selfish that they are hostile…vengence draws its power from the same root…

Theo! Some people provoke others, and that is what Scripture says we should not do….I agree with thehappyman and thank Him for reminding me of that Scri[pture……….Going on and on about one point is senseless to do…..
Peace and love Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 09 2011,12:15)

THE SON was not BORN like us.  He was born DIRECTLY from the Holy Spirit in Mary.

Hi Dennison,

Does this mean you believe the “HolySpirit” was Jesus' father?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[942767]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2011,11:40)

Hi All, The Holy Spirit is God's “active force”.  God speaks to us THROUGH His Spirit. It is the Spirit OF  OF   OF   OF   God.   Just like Jesus is the Son OF   OF     OF    OF    God. When did the word OF become so hard to understand by intelligent adults?   John 16:13 NIV But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. So God Himself does not speak on His own?  He only speaks what he's told to?  Sounds a little odd to me.    But come to think of it, Jesus also only spoke what the Father commanded him to speak.  So another “God Almighty” can't speak his own words.  This gets stranger all the time.     mike

Hi Mike:

I believe you will understand this if you read the scripture in context:

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John 16 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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