The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[NickHassan]

Hi t,
The Son of Man is less that his Father God Who abides in Him as the Spirit.

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ June 03 2010,15:01)

Hi Ed, that was me who had that post down in bods thread so here it is again.. In hermas Theres God the Father, theres the Son who is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus the Son of God, makes sense to me, I believe what Hermas says. It was also believed by other early writtings. Adoptionism I think its called?

Hi Karmarie,

Sorry, I thought Katjo said that!
Does that mean you don't believe in the “virgin birth” as hermas suggests?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[karmarie]

Hi Ed. I havent got to that part yet.

But according to Sheppard of Hermas, theres the Holy Spirit who always existed with God known as the Son of God, then at Baptism the Son (holy Spirit) descended onto Jesus, The Words Jesus spoke would have been the Holy Spirit (son). Jesus at death became the first born from the dead. The other Son of God. Forgive me if I have that wrong though I need to read more.

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ June 03 2010,19:29)

Hi Ed. I havent got to that part yet. But according to Sheppard of Hermas, theres the Holy Spirit who always existed with God known as the Son of God, then at Baptism the Son (holy Spirit) descended onto Jesus, The Words Jesus spoke would have been the Holy Spirit (son). Jesus at death became the first born from the dead. The other Son of God. Forgive me if I have that wrong though I need to read more.

Hi Karmarie,

The “HolySpirit” is GOD! That's why blasphemy against him will not be forgiven!

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
                 but unto him that blasphemeth against the HolySpirit(speaketh against the HolySpirit),
                 it shall not be forgiven him; neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Mathew 12:32

God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi KM,
The Shepherd of Hermas is available in the writings section of this site

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2010,16:10)

nick Mt 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. why is not forgiven?? Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

So glad you asked! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.3:13)

That's because the “HolySpirit” is GOD! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 Luke 1:35)
That's why: Rejecting the “HolySpirit” is UNFORGIVABLE! (John 4:24)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Yes God's Spirit is of God.
“Our Father Which ART IN heaven…”

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2010,12:45)

Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2010,16:10) nick Mt 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. why is not forgiven?? Pierre Hi Terraricca, So glad you asked! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.3:13) That's because the “HolySpirit” is GOD! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 Luke 1:35) That's why: Rejecting the “HolySpirit” is UNFORGIVABLE! (John 4:24) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT ;is that Jesus is send by God,so if you do not believe him it could be forgiven ,but if you are facing with the only alternative to be saved is trough God s direct truth,or his holy spirit,tel me where are you going, if you refuse, to be saved ?

Pierre

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Jesus was known according to the flesh, the Son of Man.

Blind carnal men who heard him could be forgiven for thinking he was speaking as a man.
Now is different and rejecting his words is rejecting God Who spoke His words through him.

[GeneBalthrop]

To All……..John 16:25…..> These things have i spoken unto you in (PROVERBS): (fictitious illustrations) , But a time comes when I shall no more speaks unto you in (PROVERBS) (fictitious illustrations), but I shall show you (PLAINLY) of the FATHER.

We may not understand as much as we think we do.

peace and love to all………………..gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 04 2010,16:28)

To All……..John 16:25…..> These things have i spoken unto you in (PROVERBS): (fictitious illustrations) , But a time comes when I shall no more speaks unto you in (PROVERBS) (fictitious illustrations), but I shall show you (PLAINLY) of the FATHER. We may not understand as much as we think we do. peace and love to all………………..gene

gene

i agree with you,but we still try to understand God way s because it is the way of truth;what remain ,hope ,faith,and love

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 04 2010,13:35)

Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2010,12:45) Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2010,16:10) nick Mt 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. why is not forgiven?? Pierre Hi Terraricca, So glad you asked! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.3:13) That's because the “HolySpirit” is GOD! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 Luke 1:35) That's why: Rejecting the “HolySpirit” is UNFORGIVABLE! (John 4:24) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT ;is that Jesus is send by God,so if you do not believe him it could be forgiven ,but if you are facing with the only alternative to be saved is trough God s direct truth,or his holy spirit,tel me where are you going, if you refuse, to be saved ? Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

Could you please explain what you are talking about here,
especially the last part of the last sentence?

Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The truth of God as the Word is the bait.
Those called by God cannot resist it and having tasted of the Spirit's work seek to be one with the Spirit

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2010,12:49)

Hi ED, Yes God's Spirit is of God. “Our Father Which ART IN heaven…”

Hi Nick,

Matt.6:10 was before “Pentecost”.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
     and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not,
                neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

These verses pertain to after “Pentecost”. For more click here

Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought
beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall
be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the HolySpirit.
Matt. 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Yes.

And Jesus manifested with his Father as the Spirit in his body as promised.
That same Holy Spirit lives in us and gives us the words to say when required.

I do not know why you offer your advertisements for your 'answers'.
We have truth that is written

Soon the Master will return

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2010,19:50)

Hi ED, Yes. And Jesus manifested with his Father as the Spirit in his body as promised. That same Holy Spirit lives in us and gives us the words to say when required. I do not know why you offer your advertisements for your 'answers'. We have truth that is written Soon the Master will return

Hi Nick,

My answers as you call them are to help others to learn about YHVH. (1Peter 3:15-16)
2Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Yes preach the Word, not your teachings.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2010,04:02)

Hi ED, Yes preach the Word, not your teachings.

Hi Nick,

That's the same thing you say to Georg. Are we to believe that those who see things differently
are all “wrong” as Kang, WJ, Georg and Terraricca all suggest?

I appreciate Georg's insight even though I don't always agree with him.
How can God change us from the inside if we're not presented with God wants? (Heb.6:1-3)

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
The Word is the seed.
Mans window dressing is flimflam.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2010,17:34)

Quote (terraricca @ June 04 2010,13:35) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2010,12:45) Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2010,16:10) nick Mt 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. why is not forgiven?? Pierre Hi Terraricca, So glad you asked! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.3:13) That's because the “HolySpirit” is GOD! (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 Luke 1:35) That's why: Rejecting the “HolySpirit” is UNFORGIVABLE! (John 4:24) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT ;is that Jesus is send by God,so if you do not believe him it could be forgiven ,but if you are facing with the only alternative to be saved is trough God s direct truth,or his holy spirit,tel me where are you going, if you refuse, to be saved ? Pierre Hi Terraricca, Could you please explain what you are talking about here, especially the last part of the last sentence? Ed J

edj

i just confirm what john and Paul are saying;

by rejecting the holy spirit of God ,we would not have one left to go for receiving the promise of live,

so if you have accepted the truth and lived in it to feel its Godliness, if now you leave it and go to the world ,who will save you??? you have rejected live it self,

Pierre

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