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terraricca………………….The intellect of GOD and Man are our thoughts of our minds, we speak from what we understand, and God also speaks from what he understands, His intellect (SPIRIT) is much Higher then our , but he can reveal his (INTELLECT) to us, and His HOLY SPIRIT does exactly that in US. Our conciseness has been raised to a higher level when we have His Spirit (intellect) in us. WE are transformed by this process of GOD. “Let this mind be in you that was in Jesus Christ our lord”. and again “If this mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus pour Lord (IT) will also quicken your mortal bodies. Just like it did Jesus. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………gene
G,
So the spirit is not intellect now but the thoughts of that intellect or mind?
The self glorifying mind is so vain?Perhaps best to go back to the source of wisdom and get a leg up as you are losing it.
Nick……… You seem to enjoy belittling people, what Spirit (intellect) does that come from?. Certianly not of GOD, but then again CARNAL MINDS think in CARNAL WAYS.
Thoughts (ARE) the result of our SPIRIT (intellects), anyone with the least of understand should know that. While you can say i am loosing it , it is also true you never seem to have had it. Well one thing you have going for you, you can't loose what you never had in the first place. IMO
Nick……..What i meant was Intellects produce thoughts in the mind. All thought is the product of one intellects. “So a man thinks so he is. “And again “let this mind be in you as was in Christ Jesus our lord”.
If you say Spirits are not intellects then prove what you are saying Nick, don't Just say it because you think it. I have shown you where Jesus said His words (expressed intellects) (ARE) SPIRIT and LIFE. You intellect is your life and your SPIRIT in you, without it you would not exist. Just like GOD'S WORDS are HIS thoughts drives from HIS INTELLECT. ALL SEVEN OF THEM, AND THEY ARE COUPLED WITH POWERS. IMO
hi Gene
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
how would you interpret this (spirit) in this verse
???Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2009,21:32) hi Gene
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
how would you interpret this (spirit) in this verse???
The Usage of Pneuma in the New Testament.This Is Appendix 101 From The Companion Bible.
Pneuma = Spirit, is the Greek word corresponding with the Hebrew ruach in the Old Testament.
The usage of the latter will be found in Appendix 9, and should be compared with this Appendix.
As to the Greek word (pneuma): we must consider I. the occurrences, and II. the usage:-
Pneuma occurs in the Received Greek Text 385 times. Of these, all the Critical Texts (see Appendix 94. vii) agree in omitting nine1 (or in substituting another reading) and in adding three.2
The occurrences are thus distributed :-
Received Text To be omitted 1 To be added 2 Net result
In the Gospels… 105 2 19
In the later Pauline 140 2 1 139
In the Apostolic Epistles 27 2 1 24385 9 3 379
The above 385 occurrences in the Received Text are thus rendered in the Authorized Version :-
“Spirit”, 133; “spirit”, 153; “spiritual”, 1; “ghost”, 2; “life”, 1; and “wind”, 1. 291
In the Genitive Case, “spiritually”, 1 … 1
With “hagion” (= holy) = “Holy Spirit”, 4; “Holy Ghost”, 89……. 93
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385In the margin :-
“Breath” is given twice as an alternative for “spirit”, and once for “life”.
“Of the spirit” is given as an alternative for “spiritually”; and “spirit” is given as an alternative for “spiritual”.
The usages given of pneuma. The following have been noted in The Companion Bible.
It is used for GOD. “God is pneuma” (John 4:24-). Not “a” spirit, for there is no indefinite Article in the Greek.
CHRIST, as in 1 Corinthians 6:17; 15:45; and especially 2 Corinthians 3:17, 18 (= the pneuma of verse 6-, etc).
THE HOLY SPIRIT, generally with the Article, denoting the Giver, as distinct from His gifts. See Number 14. After a Preposition the Article is sometimes to be understood, as being latent.
THE OPERATIONS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, in the bestowal of spiritual gifts, as in 1 Corinthians 12:4 – 11.
THE NEW NATURE in the child of God, because “begotten” in us by God, as in John 3:3 – 7. 1 John 5:1, 4. See note on Matthew 1:1. This is more especially the Pauline usage: spirit as opposed to what is of the flesh (John 3:6. Romans 8:4). Hence called “pneuma Theou” (= Divine pneuma (Romans 8:9.
1 Corinthians 7:40; 12:3-), and pneuma Christou (= Christ pneuma) in Romans 8:9.
MAN (psychologically), pneuma being imparted to man, making him “a living psuche” (= “a living soul”, or being, as in Genesis 2:7. Psalm 104:29, 30. Ecclesiastes 12:7). When taken back to and by God, man, without pneuma, becomes and is called “a dead soul” in each of the thirteen occurrences rendered in Authorized Version “dead body”, etc. See Appendix 13 ix.
CHARACTER, as being in itself invisible, and manifested only in one's actions, etc. Romans 8:15. (2 Timothy 1:7, etc.).
OTHER INVISIBLE CHARACTERISTICS (by Figure of Speech. Metonymy, Appendix 6): such as feelings or desires (Matthew 26:41, etc.); or that which is supernatural.
MAN (physiologically), pneuma being put by Figure of Speech. Synecdoche (Appendix 6) for the whole person; a part for the whole (as in Luke 1:47, “my spirit” = I myself.) See Appendix 9 VII.ADVERBIALLY. But this is only once, in the Authorized Version, where it is translated “spiritually” in Romans 8:6. Compare the Revised Version rendering.
ANGELS, or SPIRIT-BEINGS. As in Acts 8:29. Hebrews 1:7, 14. 1 Peter 3:19. Revelation 1: 4.
DEMONS, or evil spirit-beings, as in Mark 7:25, 26. Luke 10:17, 20, etc.THE RESURRECTION BODY, as in 1 Corinthians 15:45. 1 Peter 3:18; 4:6.
Pneuma hagion = holy spirit, and is so printed in The Companion Bible. This usage (without Articles) occurs 52 times in the New Testament, and is always wrongly rendered “the Holy Spirit” (with the definite Article, and capital letters). Consequently there is no stronger rendering available when there are two Articles present in the Greek (to pneuma to hagion), which means “the Spirit the Holy [Spirit]”. Hence, the English reader can never tell which of the two very different Greek expressions he is reading.
Pneuma hagion (without Articles) is never used of the Giver (the Holy Spirit), but only and always of His gift. What this gift is may be seen by comparing Acts 1:4, 5 with Luke 24:49, where “the promise of the Father” is called (in the former passages) pneuma hagion, and in the latter is called “power from on high”. This “power from on high” includes whatever gifts the Holy Spirit may bestow “according to His own will”. What particular gift is meant is sometimes stated, that is to say, “faith”, “power”, etc. This will be found to be the case in every one of the 52 occurrences. See Acts 2:4 (the first occurrence subsequent to Acts 1:4, 5), where we read “they were all filled 3 with pneuma hagion, and began to speak with other tongues, as THE Spirit gave”. Here the Giver and His gift are strictly distinguished.
The following are the 52 occurrences of pneuma hagion. Those marked * are the subject of a various reading, and h.p. denotes hagion pneuma: Matthew 1:18, 20; 3:11. Mark 1:8. Luke 1:15, 35, 41, 67; 2:25; 3:16; 4:1-; 11:13. John 1:-33; 7:-39; 20:22. Acts 1:2, 5; 2:4-; 4:8, 31*; 6:3, 5; 7:55; 8:15, 17, 19; 9:17; 10:38; 11:16, 24; 13:9, 52; 19:2, 2. Romans 5:5; 9:1; 14:17; 15:13, 16. 1 Corinthians 2:13*; 6:19h.p.; 12:-3. 2 Corinthians 6:6. 1 Thessalonians 1:5, 6. 2 Timothy 1:14. Titus 3:5. Hebrews 2:4; 6:4. 1 Peter 1:12. 2 Peter 1:21. Jude 20.
The above 14 usages of pneuma, and the 52 occurrences of pneuma hagion, are all indicated in the notes of The Companion Bible.
NOTES
1 Luke 2:40; 9:55. Acts 18:5. Romans 8:1. 1 Corinthians 6:20. Ephesians 5:9. 1 Timothy 4:12. 1 Peter 1:22. 1 John 5:7
2 Acts 4:25. Philippians 4:23. Revelation 22:6
3 The Verb to fill takes three Cases after it. In the Active, the Accusative of the vessel, or whatever is filled; and the Genitive, of what it is filled with. In the Passive, the Dative, of the filler; and the Genitive, of what the vessel is filled with. In Ephesians 5:18 it is the Dative, strengthened by the Preposition (en pneumati), denoting the Holy Spirit Himself as being the one Who fills with other gifts than “wine”.
hi all
the Holy Spirit,??why is it called Holy because it is from God and God is Holy,
the spirit in this case it calls the spirit of God ,there are many spirits but the one that comes from God is definitely the truth without doughs
the spirit Christ told his disciples abode was also called the counselor and it will refresh there memory as to the teachings that they had received by Christ so they could be guided by the Spirit of truth.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 17 2009,22:47) This Is Appendix 101 From The Companion Bible.
Hi Ron,The Companion Bible, E. W. Bullenger, excellent study Bible.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 17 2009,13:21) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 17 2009,22:47) This Is Appendix 101 From The Companion Bible.
Hi Ron,The Companion Bible, E. W. Bullenger, excellent study Bible.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ya, I like “some” of his works.Hi,
The Spirit is as the wind.When you walk against the wind is is harder but you can still make slow progress.
When the wind is at your back it is easier to reach your destination.Once established in Christ as blessed by that Spirit we need to learn to seek and respond to the encouragement or discouragement given with each journey we plan by that Spirit.
Nick……..Wind is an excellent (EXAMPLE) of what Spirit is (LIKE), Wind has POWER, You can't see it , but it you can see its effect on things. Spirit is the Same way you can't see Spirit, But it effects our thinking and Can animate us to do things , so it indeed has power. It produces fruits in our lives This unseen force effects our INTELLECTS or MINDS. Jesus gave an excellent example of what Spirit is LIKE, and he also said the words He spoke to us were Spirit, A (WORD) (IS) THE EXPRESSION OF ONE INTELLECT. IMO
G,
We do not need your add ons.The wind does not force anything but empowers.
Thinking is transformed by feeding on the living Word.Jesus indeed spoke the words of God enlivened by the Spirit.
Many assume they speak for God when they express their own thoughts.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 07 2010,17:12) G,
We do not need your add ons.The wind does not force anything but empowers.
Thinking is transformed by feeding on the living Word.Jesus indeed spoke the words of God enlivened by the Spirit.
Many assume they speak for God when they express their own thoughts.
Nick………So when you see the wind move leaves < you suppose the wind is (INSIDE) the LEAVES, Jesus example was of (HOW) Spirit is (LIKE) the wind it MOVES or animates US and the SPIRIT of GOD (IS) GOD'S GRACE (God's influencing on our hearts) Just as a wind effect it power on a leaf and cause it to move.To lie and say the wind does not force anything is a pure lie, even a simpleton knows it does and those who come through a tornado would greately disagree with you . You not only show your lack of knowledge about the wind but also about how the SPIRIT of GOD works .
You are right Many (ASSUME) they speak for GOD (LIKE YOU DO) when in fact it is your own thoughts your expressing.
Nick………as i said before a novice need not speak but listen and try to understand what other are saying. not just ignore it and assuming they have the understanding they really don't . IMO
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