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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 13 2009,02:06) Hi CA,
Implication is individual and and logic too and neither have never been any form of proof
The Spirit proceeds from God.
NHSo what does it tell you about the Spirit then?
And now that the Spirit is subservient to Jesus, what does that tell you about Jesus?
WJ
Hi WJ,
The Spirit proceeds from God through Jesus to unite all in his body with God.[1Cor12. Jn 17]
In that Spirit we can learn of the deep things of God and we are helped in our prayers to God.[1Cor2. Rom 8]
That Spirit graces us with the gifts and the ability to produce useful fruit in the vine.[Jn15. 1Cor 12 .gal5]
That Spirit of God abides forever in us and will raise us if we walk in the ways of God and are faithful to the teachings.[2Jn9. Heb12]
The Spirit as the Father's influence can manifest itself in many ways.
The holy Spirit was used to baptize 'Elohim's people(Mat 3:11; Acts 1:5; 2:2-3; 10:44-48). It fills them (Acts 2:4; Eph 5:18), is poured out on them (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Joel 2:28, 29), abides in and dwells in them (John 14:17; Rom 8:9,11; 1 Cor 3:16), is upon them (John 1:32-33; Acts 19:6) and they are in it (Rom 8:9, 14, 17; Gal 3:3).
The holy Spirit is used to anoint (Psa 133: 1-2; Luke 4:18; Isa 61:1; 2 Cor 1:21; 1 John 2:20-27).
'Elohim's people drink it (1 Cor 12:13).
It is the down payment they make on their inheritance (2 Cor 1:22; 5:5; Eph 1:14, see margin), that which seals them (Eph 1:13, 4:30).
It is the symbolic ink whereby they are inscribed as living epistles (2 Cor 3:3), and is given to them and they possess it (Luke 11:13).
It is like dew (Psa 113:3).
This does not fit the description of a person.
CT……Yes Spirit is (INTELLECT) Power given by ONE GOD. It is part of GOD'S mind added into us . “Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus our Lord”. It is the very (INTELLECT) of GOD HIMSELF> Poured out into US, GOD can pour out himself into us, very much like a waiter can add water to our glasses of water and fill them. So can GOD pour forth of himself in ALL His CREATION. In fact it is GOD that animates all creation that has life and he sustains it even now. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Quote (Gene @ Nov. 13 2009,21:19) CT……Yes Spirit is (INTELLECT) Power given by ONE GOD. It is part of GOD'S mind added into us . “Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus our Lord”. It is the very (INTELLECT) of GOD HIMSELF> Poured out into US, GOD can pour out himself into us, very much like a waiter can add water to our glasses of water and fill them. So can GOD pour forth of himself in ALL His CREATION. In fact it is GOD that animates all creation that has life and he sustains it even now. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
You should look up what “Phoneo” is defined as since intellect does not seem to be one of its definitions. The closest one to that is wisdom.In my opinion the appropriate definition for Philippians 2:5 is:
Entry for “Phoneo” at searchgodsword.org on November 14, 2009 reads:
Quote 2 c. to be of the same mind i.e. agreed together, cherish the same views, be harmonious
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2009,18:57) Quote (Gene @ Nov. 13 2009,21:19) CT……Yes Spirit is (INTELLECT) Power given by ONE GOD. It is part of GOD'S mind added into us . “Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus our Lord”. It is the very (INTELLECT) of GOD HIMSELF> Poured out into US, GOD can pour out himself into us, very much like a waiter can add water to our glasses of water and fill them. So can GOD pour forth of himself in ALL His CREATION. In fact it is GOD that animates all creation that has life and he sustains it even now. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
You should look up what “Phoneo” is defined as since intellect does not seem to be one of its definitions. The closest one to that is wisdom.In my opinion the appropriate definition for Philippians 2:5 is:
Entry for “Phoneo” at searchgodsword.org on November 14, 2009 reads:
Quote 2 c. to be of the same mind i.e. agreed together, cherish the same views, be harmonious
to have understanding, be wise <—This is not intellect?
to feel, to think <—This is not intellect?
to have an opinion of one's self, think of one's self, to be modest, not let one's opinion (though just) of himself exceed the bounds of modesty <—This is not intellect?
to think or judge what one's opinion is <—This is not intellect?
to be of the same mind i.e. agreed together, cherish the same views, be harmonious
to direct one's mind to a thing, to seek, to strive for <—This is not intellect?
to seek one's interest or advantage
to be of one's party, side with him (in public affairs)CT……….All what you stated is from the intellect that is in a person, those things are derived (FROM) the thought processes of a person and they certainly are intellects of the mind even wisdom is the operation of ones intellects or knowledge. He posses. IMO
peace and love…………….gene
Nick……..Like i told you before you may love mindlessly and without any intellect, But MY GOD and The rest of mankind certainly does not. Imo
gene
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 15 2009,14:24) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2009,18:57) Quote (Gene @ Nov. 13 2009,21:19) CT……Yes Spirit is (INTELLECT) Power given by ONE GOD. It is part of GOD'S mind added into us . “Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus our Lord”. It is the very (INTELLECT) of GOD HIMSELF> Poured out into US, GOD can pour out himself into us, very much like a waiter can add water to our glasses of water and fill them. So can GOD pour forth of himself in ALL His CREATION. In fact it is GOD that animates all creation that has life and he sustains it even now. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
You should look up what “Phoneo” is defined as since intellect does not seem to be one of its definitions. The closest one to that is wisdom.In my opinion the appropriate definition for Philippians 2:5 is:
Entry for “Phoneo” at searchgodsword.org on November 14, 2009 reads:
Quote 2 c. to be of the same mind i.e. agreed together, cherish the same views, be harmonious
to have understanding, be wise <—This is not intellect?
to feel, to think <—This is not intellect?
to have an opinion of one's self, think of one's self, to be modest, not let one's opinion (though just) of himself exceed the bounds of modesty <—This is not intellect?
to think or judge what one's opinion is <—This is not intellect?
to be of the same mind i.e. agreed together, cherish the same views, be harmonious
to direct one's mind to a thing, to seek, to strive for <—This is not intellect?
to seek one's interest or advantage
to be of one's party, side with him (in public affairs)
CT…….Would like to know what is your definition of INTELLECT if it is not thinking and abstract thought as every thing you posted involves . Would like to know (HOW) you see SPIRIT and Intellect and thought of Mind Different.peace and love…………….gene
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2009,18:57) Quote (Gene @ Nov. 13 2009,21:19) CT……Yes Spirit is (INTELLECT) Power given by ONE GOD. It is part of GOD'S mind added into us . “Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus our Lord”. It is the very (INTELLECT) of GOD HIMSELF> Poured out into US, GOD can pour out himself into us, very much like a waiter can add water to our glasses of water and fill them. So can GOD pour forth of himself in ALL His CREATION. In fact it is GOD that animates all creation that has life and he sustains it even now. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
You should look up what “Phoneo” is defined as since intellect does not seem to be one of its definitions. The closest one to that is wisdom.In my opinion the appropriate definition for Philippians 2:5 is:
Entry for “Phoneo” at searchgodsword.org on November 14, 2009 reads:
Quote 2 c. to be of the same mind i.e. agreed together, cherish the same views, be harmonious
mind: knowledge and intellectual ability; “he reads to improve his mind”; “he has a keen intellect”
reason: the capacity for rational thought or inference or discrimination; “we are told that man is endowed with reason and capable of distinguishing good from evil”
intellectual: a person who uses the mind creatively
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwnIntelligence is an umbrella term used to describe a property of the mind that encompasses many related abilities, such as the capacities to reason …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntellectThe faculty of knowing and reasoning; understanding (uncountable); That faculty in a particular person (uncountable); A person who has that faculty in great degree
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intellectby itself has two parts : rationality and intuition / insight.
http://www.modern-thinker.co.uk/9c%20-%20Glossary.htmIn human beings, is the summit of dianoia, and is that power by the light proceeding from which we perceive the truth of axioms. Of itself considered, it is a being which knows, not by process, but by its very being.
http://www.prometheustrust.co.uk/Glossary/glossary.htmlis used to assess thoughts. This is the faculty of understanding and decision-making that stands out as the most crucial faculty of the three. …
http://www.meditationinfo.net/1/basic_concepts.htmQuote (Gene @ Nov. 15 2009,11:15) CT…….Would like to know what is your definition of INTELLECT if it is not thinking and abstract thought as every thing you posted involves . Would like to know (HOW) you see SPIRIT and Intellect and thought of Mind Different. peace and love…………….gene
I believe it is more important to know what definition of “intellect” you happen to be using as you are the one making the point. Would you please share it with us. Thank you.Kerwin……… The definition is the ability to think and drive abstract thought. Read CT above explanation and understand intellect is your very being, that reasons it is what Spirit is and is (expressed) in word and deeds. Just as there are seven types or aspects of Spirit so it is with intellects, Your intellects are what guides you thoughts they produce the thoughts in your mind they are what SPIRIT is. IMO
peace and love………………….gene
Nick…….. Fact is we have many of the intellects of GOD. What odd is your lack of understanding that. IMO Do you even know what an aspect (IS)? It is obvious you don't know what intellect is. This may help you an aspect is a particular part of some understand . You mouth off allot, but yet you have not produced any definition of what Spirit is. Why is the NICK.
gene
To All………The reason i use Intellect in the definition of Spirit , is because of the false teaching of Spirit is a Being. I believe there is not such thing as a “SPIRIT BEINGS”, i believe Spirit is what is (IN) beings , and animates beings. It is the intellect that Beings have. All things that have life have Spirit in them, they can die but the spirit can't, it leaves at the point of death. When a man dies His Thoughts Parish, and his intellect (Spirit) goes back to him who gave. He is in a state of non existence and will remain that way until GOD the FATHER creates Him a new body and adds spirit back into it. My point by saying Spirit is Intellect is to show the separation between a BODY and the SPIRIT in it. IMO
peace and love to you all………………..gene
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